Do you hear gear whine? - Edit: Now Wheel Bearings?

[anthracite]

I have a 2011 LX 570 bought last summer with 53,000 miles. Currently has 62000 miles. When I bought car in Dallas, I heard a slight noise at certain speeds. Tires were in awful shape. Replaced tires with BFG all terrains. After 2500 miles started hearing a "whining sound" at certain speeds. Took it back to tire shop 2-3 times. At 60k service Lexus told me it was tire being cupped.
Replaced tires with Michilin LT defenders ( BFG had a very slight cupping) Paid difference between tires. Now the "whining" is awful at speeds over 45mph. Took back to Lexus. Right rear bearing assembly failed. Lexus dealer charged $458 for parts labour was free ($330) due to their misdiagnosed of issue before.

Dealer told me that they haven't heard of this happening unless someone hit a curb. All rims on cars are in great shape. I think it might be a design flaw. No way these should fail at this age/mileage.

That is BS that they didn't figure it out the first time. If you replace tires and still hear the noise then it is always a wheel bearing. One way to test next time is to take it to a large parking lot, get it up to speed, and then do some figure 8s. You'll hear the whine more turning one way than the other. They should have paid for the tires too.

Steve

 

[anthracite]

166k on our mall cruiser (we're 2nd owner, purchased from my Aunt).

I'm getting full monty brake job done and will ask the guys to check bearing play/noise. I'd do the brakes myself but . . . full time job, Field Hockey and Ski Race team Dad, blah blah blah and I have a great local independent shop to use.

I've not heard anything that makes me think we need bearings but I did think of it when contemplating this brake job, was wondering what people were doing, this seems to be the best thread to bump.

Back in my shop days we would check for play and also spin the wheels on the lift listening for any tell-tale grinding or 'friction' noises/feelings in the hubs. When they're going bad - it was pretty obvious. This was mostly Euro cars and they seemed to go through bearings faster than LCs. I did plenty on VWs, Audis, BMWs, Volvos, Mercedes and Porsches back then. Jags too. Oh and Saabs. Good old Saabs. Favorite whine noise was from my 83 900 5 speed I bought off a customer - the clock quit at 241k miles - and it had been driven years since then - the ring and pinion howled under the right torque - still she got me from A to B.

It depends on how the vehicle is used. If you are replacing the brakes, you are pretty much going to have everything apart that needs to come apart. The cool thing is the wheel bearings bolt into the spindle so it's not like the old days where you had to use a press. Also, it's a sealed unit so it's a pretty clean job, unlike earlier models where you had to pack the bearings, etc.

They are also relatively cheap too. I'm putting new brakes on mine this next week and will probably do bearings as well.

Steve

 

[DecreedIt]

It depends on how the vehicle is used. If you are replacing the brakes, you are pretty much going to have everything apart that needs to come apart. The cool thing is the wheel bearings bolt into the spindle so it's not like the old days where you had to use a press. Also, it's a sealed unit so it's a pretty clean job, unlike earlier models where you had to pack the bearings, etc.

They are also relatively cheap too. I'm putting new brakes on mine this next week and will probably do bearings as well.

Steve

Well, yes for Fronts and totally agree this is a 'while you're in there' job - but reading the forums here the rears are the major hassle job. If mine have no play/noise I'm not doing them. Will cross that bridge when one actually fails.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

...Will be interested in this kit from Cruiser Outfitters, and other DIY type service items as my 200 goes out of warranty this summer...

Easily done, we have full kits!

Part# RAK200SF

You can see more about them here on Mud:

YWST: 100 & 200 Series Rear Axle Rebuild Kits

100 & 200 Series rear axles need love too! While you don't see/hear as many issues with the semi-float 100/200 Series rear axle, they are not immune to leaking seals and worn/loose outer bearings. The rear wheel bearings of the 100 & 200 Series Land Cruiser are a fair bit of work to service but...

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[bloc]

Easily done, we have full kits!

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Part# RAK200SF

You can see more about them here on Mud:

YWST: 100 & 200 Series Rear Axle Rebuild Kits

100 & 200 Series rear axles need love too! While you don't see/hear as many issues with the semi-float 100/200 Series rear axle, they are not immune to leaking seals and worn/loose outer bearings. The rear wheel bearings of the 100 & 200 Series Land Cruiser are a fair bit of work to service but...

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Any info on the required adapter for the press?

 

[cruiseroutfit]

Any info on the required adapter for the press?

It’s available from a number of sources or you can build one. Many tool dealers have an option or Amazon: Amazon product ASIN B07KJYHDSC