Broken LC250

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Oh in that case Tripod is overall stronger no?

I’d want Tripod over a Rzappa joint…

Anyway I think 100s and 200s have rzappas no?
120/150 and 4th/5th gen 4Runners have tripods; mine are still in great shape at 206K after sevearl reboots. However I'm not sure it would be easy to drive one off the trail unless the broken shaft was pulled out of both cups, then yes it would be NBD to drive it off the trail.

Either it's a freak accident of Toyota forgot how to design tripod CVs (like they forgot how to design crankshafts and main bearings ;)).
 
My real beef with the Prado 250 is Toyota trashing the LC name as calling it the "new LC", but it has a whole lot of other problems when compared to the 150.

Free yourself from the US market nomenclature struggle.

Between 4runner, Land Cruiser, GX, and LX, Toyota / Lexus now offers more than twenty trim, power / drive train, and body style configurations of the 112” wheelbase four wheel drive wagon in the U.S.

It’s remarkable, really.

Choose the one that best suits.
 
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Oh Nnnnooooo
This 2003 highly modified FJ has a different steering feel than this modern 2024 Landcruiser with different tires and stock suspension 😱
This isn’t supposed to happen

Alex,
I’ll take “Things We Already Know” for $500
 
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Oh Nnnnooooo
This 2003 highly modified FJ has a different steering feel than this modern 2024 Landcruiser with different tires and stock suspension 😱
This isn’t supposed to happen

Alex,
I’ll take “Things We Already Know” for $500
Did you even watch the video?
No FJ Cruiser was built in 2003. He is not comparing it to his FJ.
He goes in depth about the CV joint and the rear diff comparison.
It clearly shows LC250 are weaker than Tacoma and 4Runner. Which is blasphemy. LC supposed to be on top of the line up. Especially not below those two.
Toyota definitely targeting more Mall Crawler buyer for US edition of LC2550.
 
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Did you even watch the video?
No FJ Cruiser was built in 2003. He is not comparing it to his FJ.
He goes in depth about the CV joint and the rear diff comparison.
It clearly shows LC250 are weaker than Tacoma and 4Runner. Which is blasphemy. LC supposed to be on top of the line up. Especially not below those two.
Toyota definitely targeting more Mall Crawler buyer for US edition of LC2550.
How about a productive question? Does anyone know if the 250 shares the same rear end and CV across the globe or do other markets get the heavier duty gear? Only thing I know of for sure is the different engine and trim options offered overseas. Speaking of which, that 4 cyl diesel sounds sweet. MUCH better than the petrol.
 
Based on this thread a couple years ago, all LC250 got small diff regardless of power train combination.
There used to be a lot more detailed data before it got removed due to Toyotas request. 😁Because they knew, they mess it up and would make a lot of people unhappy.

How about a productive question? Does anyone know if the 250 shares the same rear end and CV across the globe or do other markets get the heavier duty gear? Only thing I know of for sure is the different engine and trim options offered overseas. Speaking of which, that 4 cyl diesel sounds sweet. MUCH better than the petrol.
 
Did you even watch the video?
No FJ Cruiser was built in 2003. He is not comparing it to his FJ.
He goes in depth about the CV joint and the rear diff comparison.
It clearly shows LC250 are weaker than Tacoma and 4Runner. Which is blasphemy. LC supposed to be on top of the line up. Especially not below those two.
Toyota definitely targeting more Mall Crawler buyer for US edition of LC2550.
Forget it. This guy has been living in denial for a while now.
 
Forget it. This guy has been living in denial for a while now.
LC250s are being used as mall crawlers. Anecdotally, suburban women in their late 30s through early 50s seem to be the most common demographic I see driving LC250s in this area. I very rarely see a male driver; I have yet to see one built in any capacity. Even my wife, who is squarely in that demographic, loves the way the LC250 looks (but dislikes most every other Toyota BOF SUV). The target demographic does not care about the 8.2 vs. 9.5" rear diff, nor do they care about how strong the CVs are.

What perplexes me as an enthusiast is that Toyota would bother having a light-duty diffs and CVs and heavy-duty diffs and CVs in basically the same vehicle that is made in the same plant. They can't be getting much, if any, cost savings relative to just using the heavier-duty diffs and CVs across the board.
 
LC250s are being used as mall crawlers. Anecdotally, suburban women in their late 30s through early 50s seem to be the most common demographic I see driving LC250s in this area. I very rarely see a male driver; I have yet to see one built in any capacity. Even my wife, who is squarely in that demographic, loves the way the LC250 looks (but dislikes most every other Toyota BOF SUV). The target demographic does not care about the 8.2 vs. 9.5" rear diff, nor do they care about how strong the CVs are.

What perplexes me as an enthusiast is that Toyota would bother having a light-duty diffs and CVs and heavy-duty diffs and CVs in basically the same vehicle that is made in the same plant. They can't be getting much, if any, cost savings relative to just using the heavier-duty diffs and CVs across the board.
100% my experience as well. I’m fact my neighbors 2 doors down are the perfect example. Wife drives a white Prado hauling their kid back and forth to school, practice, etc and guy drives a f150. The prado is a direct competitor now of the broncos, defenders and, on the looks department, even the passport. Hell, I even think buying my wife one of 1958s to replace her volks atlas, but just when it comes down to reasonable prices. Would never pay $58k for a cloth seat hard plastics galore.
 
100% my experience as well. I’m fact my neighbors 2 doors down are the perfect example. Wife drives a white Prado hauling their kid back and forth to school, practice, etc and guy drives a f150. The prado is a direct competitor now of the broncos, defenders and, on the looks department, even the passport. Hell, I even think buying my wife one of 1958s to replace her volks atlas, but just when it comes down to reasonable prices. Would never pay $58k for a cloth seat hard plastics galore.
A smarter option for the target demographic would be to do what my wife did and get a Highlander Hybrid instead. Cheaper, drives better, significantly larger inside, easier to load things into and out of, nicer interior materials, much better MPG. It was $51K when we bought it in 2023 and it routinely gets 33-36 mpg. I was begging her to get a 2023 GX460 at that time but finally caved and found her the crossover. To be honest, I like driving it almost as much as she does.
 
If you read the threads in which members "chose" to buy one, you will find a patter. A very clear pattern.
Their wives loved it more than other cars/models.

Now you can understand what the target audience/customer is for these fake Land Cruisers.
"But it's pretty." :princess:
 
If you read the threads in which members "chose" to buy one, you will find a patter. A very clear pattern.
Their wives loved it more than other cars/models.

Now you can understand what the target audience/customer is for these fake Land Cruisers.
"But it's pretty." :princess:
Guess my wife is an outlier. She loves the way the LC250 looks but dislikes the "drives like a bus" aspect of a BOF SUV. The Highlander certainly excels at hauling our kids to soccer and dance. I even used it to haul bumpers home from the freight terminal for my GX470 as it was less effort than hooking up the trailer to my GX.
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LC250 got much weaker front CV and smaller rear axle than higher grade 4runner or even Tacoma.
The product planner really screw this LC250. Like they do not want this to be an off roader.

I really wanted one back on 2024 and got two paid deposit. Glad I did not end up buying it.
I wound rather buy Chinese Tank 300 over this LC250 at this point.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
 
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You have no idea what you're talking about.
Which one? Please be more specific, instead of blanket statement.

It's well documented and been proven by many other members. It's even listed in some spec sheet. The videos listed in this thread also shows the difference with comparison pictures. I crawl underneath at auto show like a idiot to confirm before canceling my order.

Would the current LC250 work off road? Off course yes but it would not withstand the same abuse as off road grade Tacoma, 4Runner and GX550? All same platform but they all got better hardware to cope with heavier off road duty and modifications. LC250 basically got same grade front CV and rear axle as SR5 Grade Tacoma and 4Runner plus RR Diff Lock and full time 4WD. While it supposed to be much higher than that.
 
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Which one? Please be more specific, instead of blanket statement.

It's well documented and been proven by many other members. It's even listed in some spec sheet. The videos listed in this thread also shows the difference with comparison pictures. I crawl underneath at auto show like a idiot to confirm before canceling my order.

Would the current LC250 work off road? Off course yes but it would not withstand the same abuse as off road grade Tacoma, 4Runner and GX550? All same platform but they all got better hardware to cope with heavier off road duty and modifications. LC250 basically got same grade front CV and rear axle as SR5 Grade Tacoma and 4Runner plus RR Diff Lock and full time 4WD. While it supposed to be much higher than that.
Do you think Toyota, a company that's been building legendary 4wd trucks for decades, would somehow forget how to bolt together a Landcruiser? Or Prado, or whatever you want to call it. You must have some serious engineering chops, if you have more knowledge than the guys that designed this, please list what they are. I have no idea why certain design decisions are made, unfortunately, they don't always check in with me during the engineering process. I just trust that they're going to put out another awesome truck. I've got a bunch of em, and so far, not one has let me down. The fact that some attention ho broke one for you tube means absolutely nothing to me.
 
Top gear broke the front CV too. Although they run Artic Truck AT 37 package. No other vehicle broke their drive train in the test. Not the Jeep, not the Ineos and not the Defender. Used to say to you buy a jeep to go off road and buy a land cruiser if you want to go home. Not the case any more.

Ben Calhoun tip his at Moab. Not really any damage but it would not start afterwards. Need a computer to reset everything before it would restart. We use to laugh at land rover for this kind of of failure.


Toyota definitely not perfect. They screw up in more than a few cases. As evident with the 3.4 twin turbo fiasco that they still don't know how to fix.

Again, this is perfect for grocery getter. Not something I want to rely in the back country.
There would be a lot more faiure as more people would take this off road and start finding all the shortcomings.

Older simpler vehicle are better if you want to survive in the back county.
Do you think Toyota, a company that's been building legendary 4wd trucks for decades, would somehow forget how to bolt together a Landcruiser? Or Prado, or whatever you want to call it. You must have some serious engineering chops, if you have more knowledge than the guys that designed this, please list what they are. I have no idea why certain design decisions are made, unfortunately, they don't always check in with me during the engineering process. I just trust that they're going to put out another awesome truck. I've got a bunch of em, and so far, not one has let me down. The fact that some attention ho broke one for you tube means absolutely nothing to me.
 
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