tex45
SILVER Star
I saw the below listing on BaT and thought it was odd so wanted to post here so maybe the experts can enlighten me. I commented on the listing but being that it is my first comment on BaT apparently it has to be reviewed and approved by BaT to be shown.
This is a 1983 FJ40 "LX"; current (ends in ~30 minutes) listing:
1983 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40 LX 5-Speed - https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-toyota-land-cruiser-fj40-49/
This same vehicle was previously sold in 2024 on BaT:
No Reserve: 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40 LX 5-Speed - https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-toyota-land-cruiser-fj40-lx/
Background: I have a 1982 Saudi FJ45 with no factory heater or A/C. Being that I live in Texas and this is my daily driver, both a heater and an A/C would be greatly welcomed. Thus, I have been looking to add factory options of both into my ride.
To the listing: What peaked my interest is when I saw the Vintage Air install on the current listing, and the OEM A/C and heater on the original listing. "What a shame!" I say to myself. I then start looking at the original listing photos and YouTube "walk around" video and notice some strange (to me) things:
1) The LX badging on the passenger side of the vehicle is in the incorrect location; it should be to the right of the "Land Cruiser" emblem:
From the listing:
From Proffitt's site:
PCARMARKET:
The BaT listing mentions a repaint, so no big deal maybe the LX emblem was replaced in the wrong location after repaint.
2) This brings me to what I thought was the strangest thing: In the prior listing's photos, an OEM style inside heating unit is clearly installed, but there is no heater blower installed in the engine compartment. Additionally, on the prior listing’s YouTube “walk around video”, you can also see there is no factory firewall cutout for the heater blower screen, heater hoses, and no blower or heater valve mounting provisions so it’s not like it just got removed. It appears it did not come from the factory with a heater.
Prior listing video (At 3:26 he opens the hood and you can see there is no firewall cutout for the blower)
Prior listing photos:
Inside heating unit shown installed:
No blower in engine compartment, no factory cutout for blower, no heater lines or heater valve, and no mounting provisions for any of these things:
In the comments on the prior listing, the another commenter pointed out the fact that there were not provisions for a heater blower on the firewall, and the seller commented back that he answered the commenter via email.
Further down in the comments, another commenter asks if there is in fact a heater, and the seller responds:
It was definitely missing a few hoses, and some factory firewall cutouts!
In summary:
Assuming both of the above questions are correct, would this appear to be a Gen market FJ40 with factory A/C and power steering? I then have to assume that someone later put an LX interior into it and added LX badges, with the passenger side badge incorrectly placed.
What am I missing here?
This is a 1983 FJ40 "LX"; current (ends in ~30 minutes) listing:
1983 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40 LX 5-Speed - https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-toyota-land-cruiser-fj40-49/
This same vehicle was previously sold in 2024 on BaT:
No Reserve: 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40 LX 5-Speed - https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-toyota-land-cruiser-fj40-lx/
Background: I have a 1982 Saudi FJ45 with no factory heater or A/C. Being that I live in Texas and this is my daily driver, both a heater and an A/C would be greatly welcomed. Thus, I have been looking to add factory options of both into my ride.
To the listing: What peaked my interest is when I saw the Vintage Air install on the current listing, and the OEM A/C and heater on the original listing. "What a shame!" I say to myself. I then start looking at the original listing photos and YouTube "walk around" video and notice some strange (to me) things:
1) The LX badging on the passenger side of the vehicle is in the incorrect location; it should be to the right of the "Land Cruiser" emblem:
From the listing:
From Proffitt's site:
PCARMARKET:
The BaT listing mentions a repaint, so no big deal maybe the LX emblem was replaced in the wrong location after repaint.
2) This brings me to what I thought was the strangest thing: In the prior listing's photos, an OEM style inside heating unit is clearly installed, but there is no heater blower installed in the engine compartment. Additionally, on the prior listing’s YouTube “walk around video”, you can also see there is no factory firewall cutout for the heater blower screen, heater hoses, and no blower or heater valve mounting provisions so it’s not like it just got removed. It appears it did not come from the factory with a heater.
Prior listing video (At 3:26 he opens the hood and you can see there is no firewall cutout for the blower)
Prior listing photos:
Inside heating unit shown installed:
No blower in engine compartment, no factory cutout for blower, no heater lines or heater valve, and no mounting provisions for any of these things:
In the comments on the prior listing, the another commenter pointed out the fact that there were not provisions for a heater blower on the firewall, and the seller commented back that he answered the commenter via email.
Further down in the comments, another commenter asks if there is in fact a heater, and the seller responds:
It was definitely missing a few hoses, and some factory firewall cutouts!
In summary:
- With no firewall cutouts for the heater lines, and the blower, this appears (to me) to have not come from the factory with a heater?
- If it did not come from the factory with a heater, then this is not an LX?
Assuming both of the above questions are correct, would this appear to be a Gen market FJ40 with factory A/C and power steering? I then have to assume that someone later put an LX interior into it and added LX badges, with the passenger side badge incorrectly placed.
What am I missing here?
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