HZJ60 Guy
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HZJ60 Guy
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Rvl said:
Why isnt anyone ever asking this bloke HOW it is that he is driving these NON importable trucks in the US????????
TB
crushers
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easy there Tom, take a deep breath, hold it, okay relax...
you are getting yourself a bit worked up.
shoot him an email and ask him...
cheers
you are getting yourself a bit worked up.
shoot him an email and ask him...
cheers
HZJ60 Guy
Tank Buster
crushers said:
Im just teasing him. If he did it somehow, lucky him! Im sure he doesnt want people asking him about it.
We can all just be jealous.
TB
dieseldog said:
Good advice, I think. What do you need more room for?
I would consider selling it if I could buy an equally cherry JDM.
Get a roof carrier , triples the amount of space for gear.
I carry camping gear and rescue equipment with 2 adults and 2 or 3 kids
I am looking around for a military trailer to mount a pop-up tent on , I tend to get into campsites after 11pm and dont want to set up tents and stuff.
The car is always loaded up with most of my camping gear ie tents , stoves , bbq . The only thing I throw in at the last moment is food , cooler and sleeping bags.
I carry camping gear and rescue equipment with 2 adults and 2 or 3 kids
I am looking around for a military trailer to mount a pop-up tent on , I tend to get into campsites after 11pm and dont want to set up tents and stuff.
The car is always loaded up with most of my camping gear ie tents , stoves , bbq . The only thing I throw in at the last moment is food , cooler and sleeping bags.
My 2 cents from a guy who has desired a 7X diesel for some time and own an 80.
The 80 rides like a Cadilac compared to a BJ70. It's much more comfortable for long hauls because of the added creature comforts. You have a lot of interior room and seating for 8. The gasser is powerfull, smooth, and quite and not too far off on fuel ecomony from the 3B. A newer 80 (FZJ80) will get about 17 USmpg average and a 3B will get about 20. Easy to get parts locally and it's still pretty rare. For the same price as a BJ74 you can get a 80 with lockers.
A diesel would be great, but you will be looking at spending double for a JDM and it will be RHD. If you do the engine swap, you may come out ahead if you do it yourself.
The 7X is an great ride and my favourite, but practicality sets in when your rig is 20 years old and you have other responsiblities (read: wife and kids). You are not loosing anything in terms of toughness, offroad ability, or reliability. The 80 is as capable or more (espesially with an more stable wheelbase and lockers) then a 70, but larger, heavier and not as nimble.
In short I think the 70 is a great trail rig if you have trails in your backyard, but the 80 is the BEST daily driver and weekend toy.
The 80 rides like a Cadilac compared to a BJ70. It's much more comfortable for long hauls because of the added creature comforts. You have a lot of interior room and seating for 8. The gasser is powerfull, smooth, and quite and not too far off on fuel ecomony from the 3B. A newer 80 (FZJ80) will get about 17 USmpg average and a 3B will get about 20. Easy to get parts locally and it's still pretty rare. For the same price as a BJ74 you can get a 80 with lockers.
A diesel would be great, but you will be looking at spending double for a JDM and it will be RHD. If you do the engine swap, you may come out ahead if you do it yourself.
The 7X is an great ride and my favourite, but practicality sets in when your rig is 20 years old and you have other responsiblities (read: wife and kids). You are not loosing anything in terms of toughness, offroad ability, or reliability. The 80 is as capable or more (espesially with an more stable wheelbase and lockers) then a 70, but larger, heavier and not as nimble.
In short I think the 70 is a great trail rig if you have trails in your backyard, but the 80 is the BEST daily driver and weekend toy.
HZJ60 Guy
Tank Buster
I HAVE THE ANSWER. Buy a bloody 74. Then give your 70 to me for giving you such good advice.
TB
TB
My 2 cents from a guy who has desired a 7X diesel for some time and in reality can only afford a minivan.
The minivan rides like a Cadilac compared to a BJ70. It's much more comfortable for long hauls because of the added creature comforts. You have a lot of interior room and seating for 8. The gasser is powerfull, smooth, and quite and kicks the 3B on fuel ecomony. A newer minivan will get about 20-25 USmpg average and a 3B will get about 20. Easy to get parts locally since your neighbour across the street may also have one. For the same price as a BJ74 you can get one with a CD player.
A diesel would be great, but you will be looking at spending double for a JDM and it will be RHD. If you do the engine swap, you may come out ahead if you do it yourself.
The 7X is an great ride and my favourite, but practicality sets in when your rig is 20 years old and you have other responsiblities (read: wife and kids). You are not loosing anything in terms of economy, practicality or the in-laws respect. The minivan is as capable around the city or more (espesially in mall parking lots) then a 70, but lower, lighter and a lot more nimble.
In short I think the 70 is a great trail rig if you have trails in your backyard, but the minivan is the BEST daily driver and you can still toy with it on the weekends.
Dave
The minivan rides like a Cadilac compared to a BJ70. It's much more comfortable for long hauls because of the added creature comforts. You have a lot of interior room and seating for 8. The gasser is powerfull, smooth, and quite and kicks the 3B on fuel ecomony. A newer minivan will get about 20-25 USmpg average and a 3B will get about 20. Easy to get parts locally since your neighbour across the street may also have one. For the same price as a BJ74 you can get one with a CD player.
A diesel would be great, but you will be looking at spending double for a JDM and it will be RHD. If you do the engine swap, you may come out ahead if you do it yourself.
The 7X is an great ride and my favourite, but practicality sets in when your rig is 20 years old and you have other responsiblities (read: wife and kids). You are not loosing anything in terms of economy, practicality or the in-laws respect. The minivan is as capable around the city or more (espesially in mall parking lots) then a 70, but lower, lighter and a lot more nimble.
In short I think the 70 is a great trail rig if you have trails in your backyard, but the minivan is the BEST daily driver and you can still toy with it on the weekends.
Dave
Family still bugging you about your "old cars" Dave? You're still not over the time when your mom told me she thought my 74 was in better shape than your "old truck", eh?
PS. I LOVE the edit! LOL.
You're still not over the time when your mom told me she thought my 74 was in better shape than your "old truck", eh? PS. I LOVE the edit! LOL.
aamiggia said:
I see more 70 series on the trails than Lexus. I heard leather seats don't like mud and dirt, and the kind of pinstripes that you get from brush are hard to polish out. 
Trust me, I've heard it all before.
The best line I got from a club prez-O-dent in Ontario when I was considering buying the Lex:
"... get the Lexus if you want to drink your Latte and listen to clasical music while on the trail". Ah, ignorance is bliss.
Actually leather is very easy to clean, where as cloth stains with mud. Leather is also more durable and will not rip under the same abuse as cloth. I don't have kids, but I know leather is prefered by moms. But, I get the point
You will definitely feel body damage more on the 80, especially when the wife freaks out about it. The stock paint is quite durable and you'd be surprised what you can get out with a good quality high speed polish. It is very important to hold on to the "Bling-Bling" factor of the Lexus. It sets us apart from the rest of the 4wd crowd.
The best line I got from a club prez-O-dent in Ontario when I was considering buying the Lex:
"... get the Lexus if you want to drink your Latte and listen to clasical music while on the trail". Ah, ignorance is bliss.
stone said:
Actually leather is very easy to clean, where as cloth stains with mud. Leather is also more durable and will not rip under the same abuse as cloth. I don't have kids, but I know leather is prefered by moms. But, I get the point
You will definitely feel body damage more on the 80, especially when the wife freaks out about it. The stock paint is quite durable and you'd be surprised what you can get out with a good quality high speed polish. It is very important to hold on to the "Bling-Bling" factor of the Lexus. It sets us apart from the rest of the 4wd crowd.
hmmm....
I gues this crowd should be labeled as the "7X Rock and Everything Else Blows".
Not much support for the 80, eh? Oh well, it'll keep the prices low, especially when more HDJ-80's hit the market.
I'm not sure if you guys know much about the FZJ80 or HDJ80 (obviously except for Wayne and other 80's importers), but it is still a "Real" Cruiser.
See for yourself www.brian894x4.com/LC80.html
I gues this crowd should be labeled as the "7X Rock and Everything Else Blows".
Not much support for the 80, eh? Oh well, it'll keep the prices low, especially when more HDJ-80's hit the market.
I'm not sure if you guys know much about the FZJ80 or HDJ80 (obviously except for Wayne and other 80's importers), but it is still a "Real" Cruiser.
See for yourself www.brian894x4.com/LC80.html
beanz2 said:My 2 cents from a guy who has desired a 7X diesel for some time and in reality can only afford a minivan.
The minivan rides like a Cadilac compared to a BJ70. It's much more comfortable for long hauls because of the added creature comforts. You have a lot of interior room and seating for 8. The gasser is powerfull, smooth, and quite and kicks the 3B on fuel ecomony. A newer minivan will get about 20-25 USmpg average and a 3B will get about 20.
You are not loosing anything in terms of economy, practicality or the in-laws respect. The minivan is as capable around the city or more (espesially in mall parking lots) then a 70, but lower, lighter and a lot more nimble.
Dave
I'll question your fuel mileage figures for minivans. From what I've gathered from neighbors who own them, I'd say their town and highway performance would be a tad inferior to the BJ70. As someone who lives in a small, hilly town with narrow streets and mostly on street parking, I'll also question your opinion about the van being more nimble. Longer rigs are not more nimble in my neighborhood.
aamiggia said:
I don't see your Lexus in those photos...
I never said that I "hated" the 80s. Yes, I know they are very capable and at least they still have solid axles and some have electric lockers. Not my favourite series of Cruisers, but I like them none the less.
What I don't like is the nay sayers and people trying to blow wind up my skirt. Would you go to a Harley Show and Shine with a crotch rocket and start telling the bikers there how much better your import is? On the same token, flog the 80 in the 80s forum, and stop telling me how much more capable your 80 is.
And I already know your views regarding RHD, JDM importers, diesels, yadda yadda yadda...so no need to rehash those either.Gashog: Dave was just poking fun of Aamiggia's post.
aamiggia said:
LOL. I'm just poking fun at the whole thread, not at you or the 80 series in particular.
Regardless of what a great vehicle they are, there are reasons that will push 80 series prices down. The supply of FJ80 and FZJ80 from the US is one. The availability of high mileage vehicles is another. Many are now reaching sub $7K prices:
$6995
$6990
$5995
With the ease of importing them into Canada, I doubt in the Canadian market the 80 series will hold their prices much higher than in the US market. Granted there will still be some premium for them.
Maybe the diesel 80 series will keep their prices much better than the gassers, as long as they are still considered a novelty. Who knows what will happen when the importers start bringing them in by the droves. BJ74 prices have come down some since they first started arriving.
So, you're in luck if you are in the market for an 80 series.
I'll stick to my minivan
Dave
Stone, I didn't mean to press your buttons. I guess I came across as bad mouthing the 70's, but I'm not sure why some people are not open minded to all cruiser's.
There are thousands of different reasons why each Cruiser series is great, yes even the 100. I never minded the harsh ride of my Samurai, but other people would rather beat their balls with a frying pan.
Maybe you don't know that the LX450 roles off the same assembly line as an 80 series LC and has 99% of the parts in common. Maybe you don't know that the 80 is the last cruiser with the "fundementals" for offroading. Namely, solid axles, lockers, and full floaters ff/rr. It is a very rare truck, and they were sold in Canada as opposed to the 80 series cruiser.
My oppions on RHD, diesels, and importers are all based on the bottom line $$$. In my part of the country these are not as common / important as where you are.
Oh, and I would take my Buell sport bike to a Harley show. They appreciate all of ther own kind.
There are thousands of different reasons why each Cruiser series is great, yes even the 100. I never minded the harsh ride of my Samurai, but other people would rather beat their balls with a frying pan.
Maybe you don't know that the LX450 roles off the same assembly line as an 80 series LC and has 99% of the parts in common. Maybe you don't know that the 80 is the last cruiser with the "fundementals" for offroading. Namely, solid axles, lockers, and full floaters ff/rr. It is a very rare truck, and they were sold in Canada as opposed to the 80 series cruiser.
My oppions on RHD, diesels, and importers are all based on the bottom line $$$. In my part of the country these are not as common / important as where you are.
Oh, and I would take my Buell sport bike to a Harley show. They appreciate all of ther own kind.
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Okay this is apples and oranges.
Took my 42 out wheeling with stock wheels and suspension, struggled were the 80 walked through lockers unlocked.
Climbed a rock face that many hard core vehicles with high centre of gravity struggled on without much wheel spin.
Yea, the 80 is big for our local trails, I have to be carefull which trail I choose, most are built for Zuks.
Long story short, no one tell my wife I took her truck out wheeling.
Took my 42 out wheeling with stock wheels and suspension, struggled were the 80 walked through lockers unlocked.
Climbed a rock face that many hard core vehicles with high centre of gravity struggled on without much wheel spin.
Yea, the 80 is big for our local trails, I have to be carefull which trail I choose, most are built for Zuks.
Long story short, no one tell my wife I took her truck out wheeling.
