Anyone tried Evan's waterless coolant?
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I would just stick with what you have if it isn't causing you grief.
What happens if you spring a leak and then your $45 gal coolant is gone.
I would rather go buy the red stuff at your local truck shop and add water wetter or the amsoil alternative.
I'm going to give that amsoil a go with the next coolant change.
What happens if you spring a leak and then your $45 gal coolant is gone.
I would rather go buy the red stuff at your local truck shop and add water wetter or the amsoil alternative.
I'm going to give that amsoil a go with the next coolant change.
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I know what you are saying, but I think it's pretty much a given that I'm going to crack the head if I keep doing what I'm doing. The thought of being stuck on side of the highway with a loaded truck/trailer, tired kids/wife on a hot day with cracked head is what's scaring me. Getting all that $hit towed back home and then wrenching on it when I should be on a trip is not appealing.
Could also just down grade to a little boler or trillium. But even then I think the engine will still get too warm. RTT maybe? Haha.
As I read more about the evans, I realize the biggest problem with it is the lower heat transfer capacity. The engine will actually run much hotter than it would with regular 50/50 mix coolant. This means higher engine oil temps and higher trans oil temps. Might not be good....
Ughh, never shoulda bought prado.
Ah it sounds like you have it tuned conservatively. People think I am nuts running 20lbs of boost into my 1HZ.
12mm pump should be on in the next month and with the new turbo I am working on I'll be doing 25lbs of boost.
Good EGTs/AFRs I shouldn't have any problems what so ever.
You probably won't like the RTT if you have young kids. Maybe just you and the wife. Yet again if your kids are a little older you could chuck them in a tent down below...
Out of curiosity where did you mount your coolant gauge in your truck? I am debating what I should do. I see the engine watchdog or guardian has an actual thermo sensor now that I could tap right into my outlet.
It'll be a cummins for me down the road when I get sick of the 77. Someone's going to get a finished and nicely built truck for their money.
It seems like you should just buy a $500 3B and put it in the truck... its not like it is that hard to do ... you must have spent more on coolant and various other things by now?
I wonder where he'd find one of those....
Toshi making sense.... Someone mark down the date.
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I've thought about that a lot, but to be honest, I'm not confident a turbo 3B would hold up indefinitely either. I've lost a lot of confidence in IDI turbo engines. Seems they all have problems once turboed and under long high load situations in hot weather. It's a major weakness of the pre-cup head design.
Anyone know an example of a turbo 3B regularly towing 1.5tons in 25-35C weather up long 6-8% grades with no heat problems?
Yeah Gerg's truck. He did snap a crank at 25lbs of boost but heck at $500 they are cheap.
Yotahed is pumping 20lbs of boost into his right now with the pump dame well maxed out.
He would be the person to test the limits of a 3b. The h55f doesn't hold up well under load towing in 5th gear though.
Chances of you pulling anything up grade in 5th is low as the thing does not make that kind of power.
Its a way cheaper alternative than the 1hz or 1hd-t route. A 5 speed 81 comes up every few months for the 10k mark.
If I was to do it all again it would be the route to go.
Yotahed is pumping 20lbs of boost into his right now with the pump dame well maxed out.
He would be the person to test the limits of a 3b. The h55f doesn't hold up well under load towing in 5th gear though.
Chances of you pulling anything up grade in 5th is low as the thing does not make that kind of power.
Its a way cheaper alternative than the 1hz or 1hd-t route. A 5 speed 81 comes up every few months for the 10k mark.
If I was to do it all again it would be the route to go.
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I'll have to look into Gerg's setup. You sure he towed? I don't think yotahed tows either? My truck runs wicked until I tow. Towing is what makes the difference.
I've really only seriously considered two swap options; both of which don't require swapping to HD front end:
One, buy an old LS400 (like this one: http://nanaimo.craigslist.ca/pts/4616744869.html ) and swap the 1uzfe. One of the best engines Toyota has ever made, and yields the same fuel economy as the 2lte city/hwy. Selling my 2LTE/intercooler/meth injection, I'd actually break even financially all said and done. Hello 260hp 260ft/lb.
Two, buy a BJ74 (like this one: http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/pml/cto/4654507288.html) and swap the 13BT/A440 into my LJ78, then swap the 2LTE/A343F into the BJ74 and sell it. I'd keep the water/air intercooler for the 13BT and double the boost/fuel. Would probably loose $1000-2000 selling the 'LJ74'. Not bad for gaining a mint low km 13BT. But would be a huge amount of work.
Problem with swaps is convincing my wife (been there before on past projects...).
And you're right, I have been eying up the HDJ81's. Problem they seem to have is overheating the auto transmissions. Would be solved by an H151, but I've only seen maybe one manual one pop up for sale a year.
At the end of the day, easiest option is just to stop towing...haha.
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https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/1990-hdj81-vx-5-speed.817747/
I would gladly drive this. 10k
Plus if you want to crank up the turbo I have something in the works at a fraction of the cost of Gturbo.
Front mount IC and you can get 200 rwhp out of that pump with 25lbs of boost.
13b-t would be fun but you'll end up doing way more work then you intend to do.
It would almost be more worth it in my eyes selling your truck and going for something like that 81.
You would recoup at least half of what he wants ditching your current truck.
Plus you would probably be in better standings with the wife/kids being able to spend time with them not fxxxing with two engine swaps.
Time is money.
With that gasser or diesel swap how much money will you truly save in fuel.
Not to mention towing with a gas pot I highly doubt you would get the same as your 2LTE.
I would gladly drive this. 10k
Plus if you want to crank up the turbo I have something in the works at a fraction of the cost of Gturbo.
Front mount IC and you can get 200 rwhp out of that pump with 25lbs of boost.
13b-t would be fun but you'll end up doing way more work then you intend to do.
It would almost be more worth it in my eyes selling your truck and going for something like that 81.
You would recoup at least half of what he wants ditching your current truck.
Plus you would probably be in better standings with the wife/kids being able to spend time with them not fxxxing with two engine swaps.
Time is money.
With that gasser or diesel swap how much money will you truly save in fuel.
Not to mention towing with a gas pot I highly doubt you would get the same as your 2LTE.
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Thanks for the link man; totally missed that one. Will run it by teh wife and see what she thinks. Wonder if it's locked? And would be interesting to know kms. Will have to email the guy.
Yeah, not sure how the economy of the V8 would be with towing. Right now I do about 17l-19l/100km towing, and about 11.5-12.5l/100km not towing (both hwy). 13BT would probably be similar to 2LTE.
Yeah, not sure how the economy of the V8 would be with towing. Right now I do about 17l-19l/100km towing, and about 11.5-12.5l/100km not towing (both hwy). 13BT would probably be similar to 2LTE.
I towed a trailer across canada including through the Cocahalla ... I had to slow down and keep an eye on the Pyro but no problems. I know when Cam had his setup with the intercooler it was MUCH better in terms of Pyro temperatures.
Mine I daily drove at highway speed including with headwinds and didn't have any issues, at some point I'd love to put an intercooler in though.
Mine I daily drove at highway speed including with headwinds and didn't have any issues, at some point I'd love to put an intercooler in though.
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Hey Toshi, what time of year was it when you did that trip across Canada? Any idea what your gross weight of cruiser + trailer was? My rig is fine for the most part below about 22C ambient and is around 8000lb total when towing.
If going to 3B Turbo, I'd keep my current water/air intercooler setup, so I'm sure that would help.
It was August, up to 38C in Saskatchewan. F***in hot! Especially with the rear heater lines exposed by the passengers feet.
Great engine, like anything else keep boosting it and shorten the life of that engine for sure, think the pistons and con rods will stand up to that much pressure?
3B guys did it for years and guys will tell you it may have been that skinny pedal that was the end culprit, but they did go boom..
Rob
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That's good to know, thanks. Might seriously consider the 3B-T. Will have to look closer at yotahed's 3B-T swap in his LJ78....
I think you would be safe under the weight of your truck.. I once hauled a BJ60 down from Courtney with a non turbo BJ60, she was a slow go but it still made the trip... Big improvement on the 1985 plus way bigger lifters and the 5 bearing config...
Just pulled the head off the BJj74 left hand conversion and found number 2@3 cyldinders with heavey scoring on the cylinders which caused extreme blow by, s***ty part is the engine still ran like a champ..
Real problem was the temp sensor was obviously not working and the owner had not check his coolant for quite some time..
We will be putting a 13BT with 140K into it I think?
This 3b is worth rebuilding but at what cost, new head and complete rebuild..? 1700 head,3K to 4K for rebuild..
Rob
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Hey Rob, dang, that sucks about that 3B. Hopefully you can get it sorted out ok for the guy. Coolant must have run real low and made for overheated out-of-round cylinder walls? Is that Jon's 13BT you're talking about?
Generally speaking with my LJ, if I go to the effort of a swap, I'd want to be as close as possible to the ideal engine before having to modify it. Doesn't take long before upgrades/rebuilds exceed the cost of just getting a better engine... Hence why I was thinking a low km 13BT, as it's pretty much what I want out of the box.
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....this would solve my problems....
Cable lockers and winch are added bonus.
Cable lockers and winch are added bonus.
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Nope, he was actually looking at the Bj74 with auto for sale in Van...
Coolant was almost nil, the engine started seizing up on a almost flat grade, when he pulled over and popped the cap and started adding water and hearing a sizzling.....