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Also, has anyone been successful in wiring the seat heaters into the factory switches without issue? What is involved in doing so? I won't use the switches supplied, I want to maintain my Factory switches.
 
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Also, has anyone been successful in wiring the seat heaters into the factory switches without issue? What is involved in doing so? I won't use the switches supplied, I want to maintain my Factory switches.
Same, I am curious about this as well.

And it's a bummer about the side airbags being in the stock seats (I hadn't thought about this); do these vehicles also have side curtain airbags in the A-pillar?
 
I'm interested to know the effect of lower-mounted seats when folks are out running trails. I may not be very tall, 5'10 (6'1 on tinder), but I like to get up as high as I can when I'm about to approach a rock or something to see as much as possible over the hood or off the corner of the fenders. I feel like being seated lower than the stock seats would make the issue more noticeable. Anyone experience this yet?
 
All that I can add as someone being 6’2” irl is that my 5’1” wife needs a booster seat to drive our 100 so that she can reach the pedals and see over the dash simultaneously.
 
I'm interested to know the effect of lower-mounted seats when folks are out running trails. I may not be very tall, 5'10 (6'1 on tinder), but I like to get up as high as I can when I'm about to approach a rock or something to see as much as possible over the hood or off the corner of the fenders. I feel like being seated lower than the stock seats would make the issue more noticeable. Anyone experience this yet?

I am curious if Seat Jackers under the brackets would work.
 
What are seat jackers? Forgive me if this is a ridiculous question

I too do not want to sit on the floor. My electric seats are adjusted so I sit high in them for exactly the reasons the gentleman above mentioned. If I need to add something to make them higher, I will do that. I am 5'10" as well.

does anyone on this thread have actual info and photos we can see???
 
What are seat jackers? Forgive me if this is a ridiculous question

I too do not want to sit on the floor. My electric seats are adjusted so I sit high in them for exactly the reasons the gentleman above mentioned. If I need to add something to make them higher, I will do that. I am 5'10" as well.

does anyone on this thread have actual info and photos we can see???

It's just a spacer block added between the anchor points of the seat frame and the floor. They can be custom fab'd or made in bulk for specific vehicles. Don't think there's any availability on the lc/lx since the oem seats already sit quite high so you'd have to fab something up.

Funny, I'm only 67" tall and my seat is just about bottomed out. Just used to that position after many years in motorsports. But I'm sure with the Mann seats I'd give them a bit of lift since they're a bit thinner.
 
Also, has anyone been successful in wiring the seat heaters into the factory switches without issue? What is involved in doing so? I won't use the switches supplied, I want to maintain my Factory switches.

Yes! I installed a seat just prior to this year's Cruise Moab.

I stared at the Scheel-Mann harness and poked at it with a multimeter and power supply until I had a fuzzy idea how it worked. Unfortunately the circuit inside the SM seat is wired differently than the OEMs, but I figured out a way to make it work by using both the OEM seat wiring in combination with the Scheel-Mann harness and its relay. End result is that the seat heater switch works in hi/low modes, and the buckle detect works too.

Here are the connections for the harness. Horizontal rows are shorted together. Note the 12v is not needed (I de-pinned it from the connector altogether).
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I wanted to preserve my OEM seat intact so I bought an extra buckle receiver and seat wiring harness from ebay. The harness is from an LX, but seemed to work fine on my LC. Here are the donor parts:
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After unwrapping the gooey tape on the OEM harness, and chopping them up we are left with this. (Guessing the passenger side has an extra wire or two for the occupancy sensor?)
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Then after some soldering and heat shrink:
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All hooked up and zip tied to the bracket from Planted:
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And installed! (Disregard the water on the seat from the rain)
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I also did a couple other mods...

The bolt that's included with the Scheel-Mann seats isn't the right diameter for the LC buckle. I got the optional bracket which slides with the seat and holds the buckle, so maybe this is not a concern without that option.
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The threads are of course different between this bolt and the OEM bolt. The OEM bolt has a shoulder on it that allows the buckle to rotate while being held in place.

So I got a 7/16-20 tap and ran it through the bracket, fully expecting that I'd end up replacing the captive nut on the bracket. But the tap seemed to work great! Bolt part number is 90084-11055 which includes the thin wavy washer. (Must be one of the few non-metric OEM bolts on the truck?)

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And lastly, I did add a couple spacers on the rear two bolt locations where the seat bracket mounts to the truck. I'm sub-6ft tall and like sitting high up, but didn't notice an issue with the SM seat. Rather, I added the spacers mainly because the seat felt tilted backwards/downwards. I used these 5/8" long aluminum spacers and sourced longer 10mm x 1.25 bolts from Bel-metric (oddball JIS bolt size). (I'll try to get some pics of this as well).
 
Has anybody been able to figure out how to keep the passenger side airbag light from coming on? I have an 06 Lx470 and the previous owner put in scheel man seats. There is a resistor in the yellow airbag seat connector and the passenger side occupancy seat sensor was taken out of the old open seat and it is connected. It is ushaped (see pics). I’m not sure how much pressure it takes for the system to think there is a passenger. I want the system to think there is always a passenger that way the front airbag goes off no matter what.

Sometimes the airbag light comes on right after starting and there are times that it comes on after driving 10 to 15 minutes. I am assuming that the system does an intermittent check occasionally.

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@pdot
What did you do with all of the other parts of the harness from SM aside from the wires being merged with the Factory harness? I believe that it has a power (red and black wires) with plug that goes into the relay. Did you leave this part off of yours? Is it needed or obsolete? Did you leave it unplugged and tucked up with the rest of the wire harness bundle?
 
@pdot
What did you do with all of the other parts of the harness from SM aside from the wires being merged with the Factory harness? I believe that it has a power (red and black wires) with plug that goes into the relay. Did you leave this part off of yours? Is it needed or obsolete? Did you leave it unplugged and tucked up with the rest of the wire harness bundle?
I only spliced into the SM switch connector as shown in the first photo, no other connections needed. I did not use the loose power and ground. I think one of the power/ground wires is visible in the photo just below and to the right of the zip tie with some heat shrink on it. The relay is also stuffed in the harness.
 
I followed @pdot in his install and mine work without issue. Follow his wiring instructions and you will be good to go. I can’t speak for the seat occupancy sensor. My truck is a 1998 and hasn’t shown a light or anything since the install of my SM seats.
 

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