Hey all, looking to import a 70 series into the US and daily drive it. I am not fond of the lack of ABS and was wondering how feasible it is to install an aftermarket ABS system onto it or if its possible/reasonable to install an OEM abs system from the newer trucks. I have seen this completed on a 40 series: $1000 USD Standalone ABS Conversion - https://www.hpacademy.com/blog/1000-usd-standalone-abs-conversion/ but wanted to know if anyone here has undertaken this on a 70 and has anything to say about it. Thanks.
70 Series ABS
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Random question, when’s the last time you would have locked up your brakes if you didn’t have ABS? My opinion, simpler is better and a 70 Series doesn’t get much simpler.
Hello,
70 Series trucks have ABS since 2013. Traction control appeared a little later.
In theory, it is possible to swap in an axle set, complete with ABS, from a newer model into a pre-2013 70 Series. In practice, it might get complicated/expensive quickly.
Possible, but perhaps not practical.
As mentioned above, the 70 Series' rather simple brake system is as reliable as it gets.
I would not go with an aftermarket ABS setup. If money and time were not a problem, I would swap in an OEM setup.
Brakes are a safety system after all, and it is wise not to tamper with safety.
Juan
70 Series trucks have ABS since 2013. Traction control appeared a little later.
In theory, it is possible to swap in an axle set, complete with ABS, from a newer model into a pre-2013 70 Series. In practice, it might get complicated/expensive quickly.
Possible, but perhaps not practical.
As mentioned above, the 70 Series' rather simple brake system is as reliable as it gets.
I would not go with an aftermarket ABS setup. If money and time were not a problem, I would swap in an OEM setup.
Brakes are a safety system after all, and it is wise not to tamper with safety.
Juan
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Not a troll post, I have been saved by ABS once. Obviously, adding abs is 'less simple,' but I would prefer it to not having it, I just wanted to know how reasonable this is. I like the 70 series for its simplicity, and lack of modern tech, but there are some advancements that are quite useful and have saved many lives. If it is an option to install, I will, if it's not, I won't. People like rick_d are the reason why it is so difficult to get into a niche community. I am sorry if my simple post offends. After all, if I wanted the simplest daily driver, I would daily my 1980 FJ40, which I love.
ABS going OEM would be **very expensive**. It’s a complicated network system.
I have no experience with aftermarket ABS systems mainly because a lot of these trucks are driven at slower speeds with space between cars where the ability to react is feasible.
That said, LCs have incorporated ABS since 1993 in the US, as required by regulations.
That said, do your due diligence with any aftermarket ABS systems. These are safety systems and safety systems in the aftermarket have had a sketchy past.
And don’t worry about @rick_d . He’s a teddy bear.
I have no experience with aftermarket ABS systems mainly because a lot of these trucks are driven at slower speeds with space between cars where the ability to react is feasible.
That said, LCs have incorporated ABS since 1993 in the US, as required by regulations.
That said, do your due diligence with any aftermarket ABS systems. These are safety systems and safety systems in the aftermarket have had a sketchy past.
And don’t worry about @rick_d . He’s a teddy bear.
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Yeah, thinking back on it, I shouldn't have called @rick_d out, I'm sure he's a great guy. Troll posts are just part of the internet these days I guess. Either way, thank you all for your insight. Aftermarket ABS sound like a route I will not be taking. I have driven trucks without it so maybe I could just reteach myself some defensive driving habits haha.
As a general rule, if you’re driving a 70 Series, most of the vehicles you encounter will be behind you.
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Welcome, @crhyne . It looks like you are 10 or 15 years or so away from being able to import an ABS-equipped model, so if you are set on a 70 series, I'd argue that maximizing the existing system would be better money spent then retrofitting ABS. Some 70 series came with rear discs, and I'm sure there are aftermarket disc and pad options out there too, especially if you are willing to increase your wheel size. I believe there is a master cylinder swap you can do as well (from an 80 series?). Proper setting of the LSPV also has a massive effect on braking... (for reference: LSPV confusion)
I'm sure you've thought of all this along with tires, suspension, and load and their impact on braking. But that's the route I'd go, unless I could buy factory equipped ABS. I'll actually be able to import one in about 3 years or so (Canada), but I'm still not sure if it's worth it...?
I'm sure you've thought of all this along with tires, suspension, and load and their impact on braking. But that's the route I'd go, unless I could buy factory equipped ABS. I'll actually be able to import one in about 3 years or so (Canada), but I'm still not sure if it's worth it...?