1984 FJ60 distributor

[CruiserTrash]

@Pighead I mean, real world data is real world data. I really don't know where the answer lies, just curious because I'm comparing stock to recurved dizzies to non-US dizzies. Maybe I should buy a Sun machine...

@DrRock It took me 20 months to get a response from Mr. Chenoweth - he's a popular guy! I finally got the go ahead from him and sent my distributor into the abyss two months ago. No word yet. This is not a complaint. He's busy for a good reason, just letting you know the process is not as simple as it seems.

 

[Spike Strip]

Yes, you won't hear anything for a while from the church of JC, you'll pray on it, then you will, and your bits will be returned within a week.

 

[CruiserTrash]

Yes, you won't hear anything for a while from the church of JC, you'll pray on it, then you will, and your bits will be returned within a week.

I've gone this route with a carb before, I'm no stranger

 

[DrRock]

@Pighead I mean, real world data is real world data. I really don't know where the answer lies, just curious because I'm comparing stock to recurved dizzies to non-US dizzies. Maybe I should buy a Sun machine...

@DrRock It took me 20 months to get a response from Mr. Chenoweth - he's a popular guy! I finally got the go ahead from him and sent my distributor into the abyss two months ago. No word yet. This is not a complaint. He's busy for a good reason, just letting you know the process is not as simple as it seems.

@Pighead I mean, real world data is real world data. I really don't know where the answer lies, just curious because I'm comparing stock to recurved dizzies to non-US dizzies. Maybe I should buy a Sun machine...

@DrRock It took me 20 months to get a response from Mr. Chenoweth - he's a popular guy! I finally got the go ahead from him and sent my distributor into the abyss two months ago. No word yet. This is not a complaint. He's busy for a good reason, just letting you know the process is not as simple as it seems.

Yes, I just used the old fashioned method of a phone call. Jim had my dizzy in and returned within 6 weeks of first contact, Wooohooo.

 

[ToyotaMatt]

It seems that the only different trick I have is blissful ignorance due to my poor search ability. I was not able to find that thread, or that post by @FJ40Jim prior to my attempt at the shadetree recurve. Had I found it, I may have saved myself the 20 bucks it cost for the spring kit. But I did buy it and then even read the enclosed directions (!). Picked 2 of the lighter springs that somebody, somewhere thought would give a full advance of some dizzy with some weights at about 3500 RPM. Because that's about where I usually shift. I was not expecting to get it right the first time. It seemed to work so I called it a day. I wish that there was an easy correct answer for exactly what springs I really want but I'm used to not knowing what I'm doing.
And; my engine is really not stock and is really, really de-smogged. Since my recent valve job (LS valves) and headwork (fairly extensive port matching and polishing) I have been advancing my timing slowly trying to figure out just how much base advance to use. I'm at 36* BTDC right now, which makes me nervous, the engine seems like it wants more. I haven't been able to get it to ping even if I try really hard and my manifold vacuum keeps increasing.
I don't know if the MSD springs are retarding my timing and the base timing increase is covering it up or the new vac advance module is affecting it or what. My seat of pants is not that sensitive. I would love a definitive answer, realize that there probably is not one for this engine in this setting.
The MSD springs did not kill my engine, it's feeling better.

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did you do a Multi-Angle valve job mr. pighead


looks sharp

how was you method of lifting head in and out ?

 

[Pighead]

did you do a Multi-Angle valve job mr. pighead


looks sharp

how was you method of lifting head in and out ?

Yes.
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With the hood removed and set aside and the head broke free from the block, I was able to lift one end enough to slide a shade twig (shade trees drop shade twigs and shade branches) in under the head. Same at the other end. Repeated with shade branches bigger and bigger until I could get a 2x4 under the head.
There's enough room in the engine bay for me to put one of my feet on each frame rail. So I stood over the engine and just lifted the head up and off. Lifting with my back, not my legs. Set the head diagonally balanced between the cowl and fender and climbed out. Replacement was pretty much the reverse but without the lumber. Just lowered it down gently while standing astride it.

 

[ToyotaMatt]

I've converted several of the 19100-61180 points distributors to Toyota electronic ignition, using good used FJ60 cams, new Toyota 4M distributor breaker plates (modified), and both used and new aftermarket signal generators. I still have parts available to convert more. It plugs right into the stock igniter. Here's a thread with details, specifically Post #19:

Distributor Tech - '75 through '77 Conversion to Electronic Ignition Using Toyota/NipponDenso Parts

This evening I finished upgrading a lightly used 2015 Trollhole electronic distributor using Toyota/NipponDenso parts. I replaced the stationary (breaker) plate with a '78 through '80 2F stationary plate, replaced the electronics with a new Camry (Celica, not Camry - it was late at night when I...

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[Northeast60]

Hey all came across this thread in the search. My main question is how do you mount the new distributor? I got a new after market one but there's no way for me to secure it to the block like my existing distributor. I'm looking at all the links and pics here and none of these options have the same flange with a slot for the timing adjustment. I'm obviously missing something here but I can't see what it is lol

 

[DrRock]

I would be very careful about installing an aftermarket distributor in your truck as the distributor also runs the oil pump. Why are you replacing it in the first place? The factory one is excellent and can be rebuilt if needed. I’ve added a picture of mine below post rebuild that shows the mount and bottom of the shaft that fits to the factory oil pump.

 

[Northeast60]

I would be very careful about installing an aftermarket distributor in your truck as the distributor also runs the oil pump. Why are you replacing it in the first place? The factory one is excellent and can be rebuilt if needed. I’ve added a picture of mine below post rebuild that shows the mount and bottom of the shaft that fits to the factory oil pump.

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Hey Rock, I'm Leary about using the he aftermarket one now since the differences are so stark. I was simply replacing the old one because its pretty beat and tired but since you mentioned it and it's in the thread, I think rebuilding it might be the best option. Yours looks great! Has the same body as my existing dissy. Did you rebuild it yourself or send it out?

 

[DrRock]

JimC

Hey Rock, I'm Leary about using the he aftermarket one now since the differences are so stark. I was simply replacing the old one because it’s pretty beat and tired but since you mentioned it and it's in the thread, I think rebuilding it might be the best option. Yours looks great! Has the same body as my existing dissy. Did you rebuild it yourself or send it out?

@JimC on this forum does rebuilds. Best is to contact him via phone listed on his website

Toyota Land Cruiser specialty parts

TLC Performance. A Toyota Land Cruiser specialist shop, service, repairs, restoration and parts sales for classic FJ40, FJ45, FJ55, and FJ60 Land Cruisers

www.tlcperformance.com

You can still purchase rotors and caps from your local Toyota dealership and would suggest getting plug and coil wires from them as well. OEM quality and reasonable.

 

[mrboatman]

I would be very careful about installing an aftermarket distributor in your truck as the distributor also runs the oil pump. Why are you replacing it in the first place? The factory one is excellent and can be rebuilt if needed. I’ve added a picture of mine below post rebuild that shows the mount and bottom of the shaft that fits to the factory oil pump.

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@4Cruisers does rebuild’s also and has replacement vacuum advance modules

 

[Spike Strip]

Hey Rock, I'm Leary about using the he aftermarket one now since the differences are so stark. I was simply replacing the old one because its pretty beat and tired but since you mentioned it and it's in the thread, I think rebuilding it might be the best option. Yours looks great! Has the same body as my existing dissy. Did you rebuild it yourself or send it out?

You should be leery.

Aftermarket (and non-USA OE ) distributors require this clamp - However, if you're talking about a CCP cheap distributor, don't do it!

 

[Northeast60]

You should be leery.

Aftermarket (and non-USA OE ) distributors require this clamp - However, if you're talking about a CCP cheap distributor, don't do it!

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What parts would be needed to do a rebuild? Vacuum advance, rotor, cap. Anything else? I haven't looked at a parts diagram yet

 

[Pighead]

What parts would be needed to do a rebuild? Vacuum advance, rotor, cap. Anything else? I haven't looked at a parts diagram yet

I think theres some ball bearings in there somewhere, and theres that advance stop bushing. and maybe the springs.

 

[Spike Strip]

What parts would be needed to do a rebuild? Vacuum advance, rotor, cap. Anything else? I haven't looked at a parts diagram yet

I didn't see if you said you're desmogged or not. If you are, there's a MUD member listed above who has been able to adapt a Toyota single-diaphragm vacuum advancer to the FJ60 Distributor, if yours isn't working. I don't think he offers that service anymore, but you can search through old threads and find what he used.

If you must retain smog components, then the double-vacuum advancer is long NLA and you'll be better off finding a good used distributor. There are two distributors still offered by Toyota that were used on 2F engines in other places around the world, but they are points distributors (which can be converted to electronic), but that will depend on what level of smog compliance you're subject to.

As far as FJ60 Distributor rebuild goes, Cap, Rotor are available from Toyota - HOWEVER, there are some springs and pins and plastic covers on those pins, for the centrifugal advance, that are always deteriorated and gone. There's also a sealed ball-bearing deep in the distributor housing that's somewhat difficult to remove/replace. There are threads on the process if you want to attempt yourself. Other than that, it's just disassemble, clean, re-grease.

wwwtlcperformance.com can do a rebuild for you, then test the unit and tweak it on his SUN Dissy machine, and is the best way to go, but turn-around is months.

There may be others, but I don't know who (if anyone else) offers that service, currently, other than TLC Performance.

 

[Northeast60]

I didn't see if you said you're desmogged or not. If you are, there's a MUD member listed above who has been able to adapt a Toyota single-diaphragm vacuum advancer to the FJ60 Distributor, if yours isn't working. I don't think he offers that service anymore, but you can search through old threads and find what he used.

If you must retain smog components, then the double-vacuum advancer is long NLA and you'll be better off finding a good used distributor. There are two distributors still offered by Toyota that were used on 2F engines in other places around the world, but they are points distributors (which can be converted to electronic), but that will depend on what level of smog compliance you're subject to.

As far as FJ60 Distributor rebuild goes, Cap, Rotor are available from Toyota - HOWEVER, there are some springs and pins and plastic covers on those pins, for the centrifugal advance, that are always deteriorated and gone. There's also a sealed ball-bearing deep in the distributor housing that's somewhat difficult to remove/replace. There are threads on the process if you want to attempt yourself. Other than that, it's just disassemble, clean, re-grease.

wwwtlcperformance.com can do a rebuild for you, then test the unit and tweak it on his SUN Dissy machine, and is the best way to go, but turn-around is months.

There may be others, but I don't know who (if anyone else) offers that service, currently, other than TLC Performance.

Yea it's desmogged Spike. Thanks for the info. I might just try to he year down and clean then reassemble first. It can't hurt and it will familiarize me with the internals if I need to take the step to rebuild. Appreciate the help everyone!

 

[Pighead]

I didn't see if you said you're desmogged or not. If you are, there's a MUD member listed above who has been able to adapt a Toyota single-diaphragm vacuum advancer to the FJ60 Distributor, if yours isn't working. I don't think he offers that service anymore, but you can search through old threads and find what he used.

This is what he sent me...

 

[Spike Strip]

Looks like there was a fair bit of fabrication and tweaking, besides that 'L' shaped bracket, to get it to work...

 

[Pighead]

Looks like there was a fair bit of fabrication and tweaking, besides that 'L' shaped bracket, to get it to work...

Oh no. Quite the contrary. One screw and one E-clip, some brakleen. perfect fit out of the box...