Need slightly longer wheel studs

[caz]

All,

I did a minitruck disk brake swap, and I am having the usual trouble finding the perfect wheel. I have settled on one that requires a 1/4" spacer.

With the spacer on, my nice new wheel studs are too short! I only get about 4 threads engaging with the lug nut.

Anyone had this problem? Is there a part number for a slightly longer stud?

I ran the same setup for years on my minis, but I never had this problem. I am wondering if the manufacturer made them a little shorter than the Toyota ones.

FWIW, they are Dorman studs.

(gratuitous picture because cleaning it all up was a lot of work....)

 

[Sputnik40]

Don't know what hubs you used - but if you have FJ40 wheel studs in them, they're too short. Just get a box of Dorman wheel studs for a mid 80's mini-truck and they should work fine with the 1/4" spacers. That's what I've done (front and rear). Do a search - the PN is listed in several threads! I've done that to get it when I've needed spares, etc.......

 

[Sputnik40]

Just looked closely at the picture (nice work by the way ). Those are definitely FJ40 wheel studs - way too short. You need to use mini's...

 

[caz]

I am confident that I ordered studs for an '85 4runner. Perhaps I should go back and check!

Thanks,
CAZ

 

[caz]

Ok,

Here is the story!

I originally ordered the Dorman # for the 85 4runner. The parts were not really correct as compared to the old studs that I removed from the rotors/hubs. The shaft was not long enough to go engage the hub - only the rotors.

I went in to Auto Zone and had them find me the right ones. I am not sure that they are Dorman, nor am I sure how he came across them, but they were for an '85 4runner.

I found a thread where Dorman part #610-265 was listed as being a little longer. I looked them up on rockauto.com and they are 4mm longer than the ones I have sitting here that were SUPPOSED to be for a minitruck. They also have a longer shaft than the original Dorman ones I got - so they should work.

I have ordered a set and will find out!

Too bad I have to tear apart my pretty hub assembly again but such is life!

Thanks,
CAZ

 

[John Smith]

Napa sells a M12-1.5 x 44.5mm wheel stud part# 6411628 $1.76 each with a AAA discount locally.

Is that the short or long NAPA brake hose you are running on the front to delete the hard line?

 

[caz]

Those are the shorter - Napa #38878

Kinda wish that I had kept the hard line though - it just seems safer somehow - no chance of it working loose over time.

I ordered Dorman part #610-265 studs from Rock Auto for 1.31/ea.

CAZ

 

[dgangle]

Another thing you may want to investigate is to search my name and "fj60 stud" and you will find a toyota part number that is longer.

 

[caz]

For reference, the Dorman part #610-265 studs were the ones that I already had. They are too short!

Now to try the next option......


CAZ

 

[caz]

OK....

Not sure what is wrong with my setup, but I researched the FJ60 studs, and they are the same as the ones that I have now - not long enough!

I looked them up on the Napa website, and they are 44.5mm long - same as the ones I have now.

 

[caz]

Checked out the Dorman website/catalog and am not really finding anything else.

https://www.dormanproducts.com/

How am I having this problem and no one else is?

Minitruck disk brake swap with V6 calipers
1/4" spacer
US Wheel black wagon wheel

 

[pygpen]

If you need the spacer to clear the caliper......
Well, I just touched the caliper with a grinder and took off a small amount where it rubbed (it really isn't much).
If you need the spacer to clear the backspace of your rim.....
Good luck, I do not think there is a suitable stud in metric for what you want to do.
PMK

 

[Cruiserdrew]

I would get some FJ60 studs which are a bit longer than the FJ40 ones but otherwise identical.

That does not look like a mini-conversion to me. The mini conversion uses a non-vented rotor, and that one looks vented. Maybe the rotor is different and that's why things are so short?

 

[pygpen]

It looks like a 60 series rotor with the V6 IFS 4 runner caliper. I did this on my 40. works sweet, but there was interference between the caliper and rim. See how much the caliper sticks past the mounting face of the rim?

I put the wheel on the studs, spun the wheel to see where it scratched the paint on the caliper and ground that down just a little bit. Mine is really close, but after having it that way for years there have been no problems or interference.
PMK

 

[caz]

It is a mini swap with vented rotor. I did have to grid the calipers a little WITH the 1/4" spacer. My original wheels work, but the ones I have now have the lip on the "D".

I don't get it as I ran this IDENTICAL setup on my minis for years - with the 1/4" spacer. I can't figure out why the studs are not long enough.

For the record -

Mini knuckles
Vented 40 rotors
V6 Minitruck calipers

 

[caz]

I would get some FJ60 studs which are a bit longer than the FJ40 ones but otherwise identical.

The Rear of the 60 series is the stud that I already have. By looking at the front 60 series stud, I can't imagine there is any way they would work.

 

[pygpen]

My original wheels work, but the ones I have now have the lip on the "D".
Mini knuckles
Vented 40 rotors
V6 Minitruck calipers

Exactly where mine rubbed, but I don't run a spacer.
My setup is simular, but with FJ60 rotors (same) and '86 and up IFS calipers (should be same).
PMK

 

[John Smith]

I bet you ran the non v6 calipers on your old front axle. Those v6 calipers look much larger compared to the 22R series calipers I am running on my front end.

 

[caz]

V6 caliper is different than the IFS one. It is a 4 piston and is a little larger. That is probably the difference.

Unless I can find other studs, I just may have to go that route.

Andy

 

[caz]

No matter what calipers I ran on my old setup, I needed a 1/4" spacer and my studs were long enough..... I suppose that is my point (if I were to truly have a point....)