M416/M100/M105A2/T3 - etc.: Differences????

Alaska Ranger · 11-18-07, 12:24 AM

Can someone run down the differences amongst those-numbered military trailers, specifically with respect to their good and bad points for on- and off-road trailering with our rigs?

And any other similar small-bodied open-box trailers, as well -

thanks!

Exiled · 11-18-07, 11:41 AM

The MTB (WWII era), M100 (Korean War era) and M416 (Vietnam War era) trailers are essentially the same, they're US-built 1/4 ton trailers designed to be towed by military Jeeps (from the "classic" Willys and Ford of WWII to the M151 "Mutt"). There are a few variants, like the M416B1 designed to be towed by the "Mighty Mite" issued to the Marine Corps during the Vietnam era, and a couple of flatbed generator trailer platforms. But they're essentially the same.

The confusion starts with the M101 designation, because there are two trailers that use it. The US-built M101 is a 3/4 ton trailer that was originally designed to be towed by the Dodge M37s and GM CUCV. It can be towed by a Cruiser, but it's a little bit big for dedicated trail use (heavy and wide).

The Canadian M101 is essentially an improved version of the M416 that was issued to the Canadian Army. Not only do they have improved features, the majority of the M101s being demobbed by the Canadian military saw little or no use, so they hit the civilian market in very good condition. That's a significant contrast to the M416s, which run the gamut from never used to units that were deployed to Southeast Asia for years and were heavily used in combat zones.

I think the CanadianM101 is the best option available out there for a dedicated offroad trailer, followed by the M416. The earlier 1/4 ton variants can also be converted, but there's a significant demand in the military vehicle restoration crowd for the older trailers, and prices reflect that.

There is also a civilian version of the MTB made by Bantam in the 40's and 50s that some people have converted for offroad use, but they have less desirable features and also tend to command high prices when in good condition.

Hope this helps!

Wolf · 11-18-07, 12:07 PM

here you see one of the main differences between a M100 and a M101.:
the wheelarches.

this is a M100

the same M100 wirh selfmade M101-arches.

A M416 has arches like these:

GadgetPhreak · 11-20-07, 01:32 AM

Great info and it answers a question I have been wondering as well. Thanks for the pictures and write up.

Cheers,
Gadget

davegonz · 12-06-07, 11:10 AM

Wheel arches aren't the only difference between them. My M100 had a one position lunette, while the newer M416 have two positions (hi/low).

Degnol · 12-07-07, 10:27 PM

The CDN 101 has the recessed tie-downs, like 6 of them, which are quite useful.

Ed

Alaska Ranger · 12-08-07, 12:53 PM

Sorry - have had so many computer issues recently that I forgot to acknowledge the great answers. Thank you, everyone.

11-18-07, 12:24 AM	#1
Alaska Ranger IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Heart of the Alaska Range Posts: 59	M416/M100/M105A2/T3 - etc.: Differences???? Can someone run down the differences amongst those-numbered military trailers, specifically with respect to their good and bad points for on- and off-road trailering with our rigs? And any other similar small-bodied open-box trailers, as well - thanks! __________________ In the Heart of the Alaska Range - www.denalihwy.com '80 BJ40 - the Fun One! '72 JD 450B - the workhorse: dozer, loader, backhoe '96 Pisten Bully 280D - Biggest and best snow groomer in Alaska '08 F-350 CC LB - the NEW! heavy hauler '06 TDI Golf - when the F-350's not needed Diesels only!

11-18-07, 11:41 AM	#2
Exiled Wagon Wheeler Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Round Rock, TX TLCA# 4080 Posts: 1,469	The MTB (WWII era), M100 (Korean War era) and M416 (Vietnam War era) trailers are essentially the same, they're US-built 1/4 ton trailers designed to be towed by military Jeeps (from the "classic" Willys and Ford of WWII to the M151 "Mutt"). There are a few variants, like the M416B1 designed to be towed by the "Mighty Mite" issued to the Marine Corps during the Vietnam era, and a couple of flatbed generator trailer platforms. But they're essentially the same. The confusion starts with the M101 designation, because there are two trailers that use it. The US-built M101 is a 3/4 ton trailer that was originally designed to be towed by the Dodge M37s and GM CUCV. It can be towed by a Cruiser, but it's a little bit big for dedicated trail use (heavy and wide). The Canadian M101 is essentially an improved version of the M416 that was issued to the Canadian Army. Not only do they have improved features, the majority of the M101s being demobbed by the Canadian military saw little or no use, so they hit the civilian market in very good condition. That's a significant contrast to the M416s, which run the gamut from never used to units that were deployed to Southeast Asia for years and were heavily used in combat zones. I think the CanadianM101 is the best option available out there for a dedicated offroad trailer, followed by the M416. The earlier 1/4 ton variants can also be converted, but there's a significant demand in the military vehicle restoration crowd for the older trailers, and prices reflect that. There is also a civilian version of the MTB made by Bantam in the 40's and 50s that some people have converted for offroad use, but they have less desirable features and also tend to command high prices when in good condition. Hope this helps! __________________ 1999 UZJ100 "the Watermelon" 2003 UZJ100 "the Hippo"

11-18-07, 12:07 PM	#3
Wolf IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 30	here you see one of the main differences between a M100 and a M101.: the wheelarches. this is a M100 the same M100 wirh selfmade M101-arches. A M416 has arches like these: Last edited by Wolf; 11-18-07 at 12:14 PM.

11-20-07, 01:32 AM	#4
GadgetPhreak IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 56	Great info and it answers a question I have been wondering as well. Thanks for the pictures and write up. Cheers, Gadget __________________ Gadget and Son (like Sanford and son only cooler and we don't live in a junkyard...) 1975 Toyota Landcruiser FJ-40 96k original miles

12-06-07, 11:10 AM	#5
davegonz Keeping it Weird Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX TLCA# 14650 Posts: 1,294 Blog Entries: 1	Wheel arches aren't the only difference between them. My M100 had a one position lunette, while the newer M416 have two positions (hi/low). __________________ David Gonzalez __________________________________________________ "Penny" Bronze 2000 100-series 33" BFG A/T's, storage drawers, OME Heavy Lift, Kenwood Nav System Old trucks:1993 FZJ80 White, 1993 FZJ80 Green, 1991 4BTJ62 david.gonzalez@gmail.com Lone Star Land Cruisers “I HEAR AND I FORGET, I SEE AND I REMEMBER, I DO AND I UNDERSTAND” - CONFUCIUS

12-07-07, 10:27 PM	#6
Degnol Noaccount Webwheeler Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansastitty TLCA# 14529 Posts: 6,556	The CDN 101 has the recessed tie-downs, like 6 of them, which are quite useful. Ed __________________ There is nothing so depraved as a man in the depths of an ether binge '66FJ40, Fresh 2F, H42/Orion(By Poser...LCR4WD), ARB Front/rear(By Poser...LCR4WD), MetalTech Cage installed by Poser, Screw-ups fixed(by Poser) 4WDB Corvette Master, Mini Truck PS, 3.5" Lift, Warn 8274, 33s on stockers

12-08-07, 12:53 PM	#7
Alaska Ranger IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Heart of the Alaska Range Posts: 59	Sorry - have had so many computer issues recently that I forgot to acknowledge the great answers. Thank you, everyone. __________________ In the Heart of the Alaska Range - www.denalihwy.com '80 BJ40 - the Fun One! '72 JD 450B - the workhorse: dozer, loader, backhoe '96 Pisten Bully 280D - Biggest and best snow groomer in Alaska '08 F-350 CC LB - the NEW! heavy hauler '06 TDI Golf - when the F-350's not needed Diesels only!

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