Hi all, hope all is well, yes I searched, a little, ... I am getting closer and closer to getting a winch and was wondering who sells winches without steel line included? Reason I ask is I am pretty positive that I'm going to run synthetic winch line for the reduced weight and increased safety but I cannot find a winch vendor who sells winches without the line. If the first thing I do is strip the steel line off and replace with synthetic line, it does not make sense to pay for the steel or the shipping to get it here along with winch. Any thoughts on this??? Thanks.