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  1. J

    Thoughts on LC250 Remote Touring Capacities

    That seems odd. Hybrid 4Runner gets the 9.5 rear axle i thought. It should have a higher payload than the LC both because it's lighter and has a larger axle. And the 5th Gen 4Runner was 1500-1700. Dropping to 895 seems odd unless they've changed how they calculate it. 895lb trailer tongue...
  2. J

    5th gen 4 runner vs LC250

    It's not a part that will be on any AWD models. Is only on part time. But they've never really said what happened. It's a slide collar that connects the intermediate shaft and the differential side gear. But it's also something that shouldn't break. I've never heard of a broken collar in any...
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    5th gen 4 runner vs LC250

    I think we'll find out as soon as they start hitting the trails with lifts and tires. If it can't handle the traction/torque/weight with 35s (the size I think will be the standard size everyone swaps for off-road) we'll find out quick. Haven't seen Tacomas blowing up diffs yet - so that's a good...
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    5th gen 4 runner vs LC250

    The GX is the most power ever in front of the 8.2. but it's not even close on applied torque. The 4.6 was mated to the a760f. First gear not nearly as low as the 8 speed. And the V8 doesn't peak torque at lower RPMs. The new powertrain has about 3 times as much torque as the 4.6 did in 1st gear...
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    Land Cruiser ‘Land cruiser trim’ vs 6th gen 4R TRDpro. Which would you pick?

    I think very few people ever treat their leather seats. And most first owners of luxury brands lease them. I doubt any lessees care at all what happens to the leather after it goes back to the OEM. The worst part of the LC200 interiors are the painted plastics. It wears off and looks bad. The...
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    Land Cruiser ‘Land cruiser trim’ vs 6th gen 4R TRDpro. Which would you pick?

    I think in this case the 4Runner doesn't have all the big negatives of the FJ - poor visibility, poor access doors, etc. But yeah, they were too similar and it ended with the FJ going away. And basically the same with the lc200. The 4Runner was too close and half the price.
  7. J

    Land Cruiser ‘Land cruiser trim’ vs 6th gen 4R TRDpro. Which would you pick?

    I thought the idea of the 250 was to go back to clear heirarchy of 4Runner > lc250 > lc300 but it seems like it's more confused than ever with the 250 being more expensive than the 300 initially and 4R possibly topping out the same or higher than a lc250. I'm the case of Tacoma/Tundra is a...
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    Land Cruiser ‘Land cruiser trim’ vs 6th gen 4R TRDpro. Which would you pick?

    Go look in half a dozen 200k mile 4Runners and lc200s from that era. It'll be obvious. The cheap faux wood plastics, painted plastics, touch points like shift knob and steering wheels didn't hold up very well. Leather isn't as durable as softex in general. And the nav screen on a couple I've...
  9. J

    Land Cruiser ‘Land cruiser trim’ vs 6th gen 4R TRDpro. Which would you pick?

    I think historically this depends on era. IMO a 2010 4Runner was simpler interior by far. But also better materials in many cases than a 2010 lc200. However, that wasn't obvious at the time. The 4Runner has just held up better over time. Later 200s interiors were much nicer. Vs Prado - 4Runner...
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    Land Cruiser ‘Land cruiser trim’ vs 6th gen 4R TRDpro. Which would you pick?

    Yes. The response was comparing Durango where I consider it infrequent snowy roads relative to Anchorage where the roads are more consistently frozen/snowpacked. Compared to Honolulu, Durango is pretty snowy.
  11. J

    Land Cruiser ‘Land cruiser trim’ vs 6th gen 4R TRDpro. Which would you pick?

    I'm in Anchorage. We basically didn't have a summer last year. Very coastal - I can watch the Belugas out my office window some days. :) We are going to move south at the end of this summer for a lot of reasons that would probably warrant a whole new thread. Short version is mostly that...
  12. J

    Land Cruiser ‘Land cruiser trim’ vs 6th gen 4R TRDpro. Which would you pick?

    To put it in perspective - it's going to be 74 degrees this week in Durango. The hottest temperature recorded the entire year of 2023 here was 72. There wasn't a single day in December of 2023 that Durango didn't get above freezing. Outside of maybe somewhere like Leadville, it's just a bit of a...
  13. J

    Thoughts on LC250 Remote Touring Capacities

    I had a bit of a debate with one of the engineers on the Tundra team a year or two ago. I don't think they did a very good job and I suggested some of the reasons why. One part of that discussion was about the front suspension that is relevant to this front ground clearance issue. I get the...
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    Land Cruiser ‘Land cruiser trim’ vs 6th gen 4R TRDpro. Which would you pick?

    I live in Alaska. I feel like I probably see more miles of snow and wet than most. AWD is nice. But I don't think it's a necessity. I don't like the dry highway feel of AWD and generally prefer the part time system for living somewhere like Utah or Colorado where snow is relatively infrequent. I...
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    Land Cruiser ‘Land cruiser trim’ vs 6th gen 4R TRDpro. Which would you pick?

    My guess is that the optional part of the limited means that it also comes in a two-wheel drive model. Not that it comes with a part-time.
  16. J

    Land Cruiser ‘Land cruiser trim’ vs 6th gen 4R TRDpro. Which would you pick?

    The release video said something to effect of "full time 4wd on premium grades" - I'm not sure what exactly that means, but I think it probably means Limited and Platinum trims only.
  17. J

    This is probably going to be very unliked, but this is just like my opinion man. This is my issue with the LC250

    Think of it as a chance at redemption for the FJ Cruiser. Great sight lines. Low belt line. Convertible, T top, or something like that. Boxy and utilitarian - not overstylized. Maybe like these renders or possibly smaller than this. My ideal would be something in the size range of a Corolla...
  18. J

    LC 250 & GX550 Picture Thread

    Same reason Toyota used a 5 speed for 20 years in the 4Runner that is the same transmission a the 6 speed in the GX but doesn't shift into 6th gear. Or why you can't get a V6 in the LC, Tacoma, or 4Runner. Heck, Toyota took the existing 3.5 V6 in the is350 and wrote new software to detune it to...
  19. J

    LC 250 & GX550 Picture Thread

    There's a mountain of research on this subject. I think mfgs seem to spend a lot of effort on perfecting it. Just a few examples: 1. Xu ZM, Xia XJ, He YS, et al. Evaluation and analysis of starting sound quality of automobile engine. J Vib Shock 2014; 33(11): 142–147. Google Scholar 2...
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    Land Cruiser ‘Land cruiser trim’ vs 6th gen 4R TRDpro. Which would you pick?

    I think the current longest lasting Toyota in the available data may be the Sequoia. I've seen it both ways between Sequoia and LC200. When they track the LC200, Sequoia, and Tundra to 250k miles I think they are all nearly identical. Just googling, the Tundra and LC200 have 47.9% of vehicles...
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