WTB FZJ80 or LX450

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Thinking about buying FZJ80 or LX450

I'm thinking about selling my FJ Cruiser and finding a FZJ80 or LX450. Does anyone know of one for sale around here? I would like low miles since this would be my daily driver. Also if you own one or did, what did you think of it?
thanks,Mike
 
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Tough to find around your area. I'd expand my search to Texas and plan a road-trip. I got mine with 50K miles and now have 210,000. My only complaint is the (comparatively, to my 1998 4Runner and 2006 Suburban) short life-span of rotors and brake pads. I replace mine every 30-50K miles on the 80-Series.

Other than that (and the average of 12-miles-to-the-gallon), it is a great vehicle.

If you don't plan to build it for some hard-core wheeling, I'd seriousely consider a 100 Series.
 
Rotor and pad life can be extended by using 100 Series pads in the front. I got about 50K out of my pads, and the rotors are fine.

I'd sell ya' mine, but I have 210K on it.

Before I started moding mine (picked it up 5 years ago w/ 167K) I actually got 15+ mpg - I even hit 18 on one trip to dallas. Then the tires and lift came, and I'm happy to still be in double digits!

If you're going to off-road it, the 80 is superior to the 100 series no doubt. If I wasn't off roading it, I'd go 100 series just for the V-8. But then I'd probably go Sequoia over 100 series.

Exactly what do you consider low miles anyhow? Even the newest 80 series is 13 years old, so getting one under 150K is getting harder and harder.

In Tulsa there are always at least a few for sale

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The 80 series strong points from my perspective as an owner, since you asked what we think of it -

Solid axles
Coil Springs
Lockers
Big Enough w/o being too big
Cheap as snot to put 3" lift and 33's or 35's on.


Weak points -

Leather sucks - have yet to find one that does not have a trashed DS front seat.

Front end does not flex well, it's better than IFS, but if you go beyond an off the shelf lift and start looking for articulation, you're hurting.

Slider cost - There are more options than there were 5 years ago, but they're still all several hundred dollars more than for any comparable vehicle - if you build your own, not such an issue, but the cats are somewhat in the way on '96-97's.

Head gasket - they 'may' be prone to failure - somewhat debatable on how prone as it may just appear to be a high failure rate do to everyone with a failure finding a forum to vent.

EGR system - I've suffered this one, there are multiple Vaccuum Selector Valves in the system, one under the intake can fail and it's hard to reach, but not impossible. The system does appear prone to the failure, but again, don't know about the sample being skewed.

Window felts - tend to dry out and cause hard opening, but when it's a 12-17 year old truck, what do you expect.

A/C System - Some find it to be marginal - but there is a good fix putting a Denalli fan in to boost it, and there is an non-US factory fan that can be put on in front of the coil. After a new dryer / evaporator valve / and recharge mine works great - well, after all that and then figuring out the crazy 40th anniversary and Lexus automatic climate control. Fixing those is easy, once you know what the fix is, but I had dealers stumped on it, and so have others - they just don't see enough of them I guess.



Back in the stone age, 1994 ish, I think it was motortrend that did a 4 wheeler of the year type test and the 80 series was in it. Saw it on TV, and I remember it climbing up something or other, and they said "It will go places no vehicle this size should go and it will make it look easy" - or something to that effect. I love it. I don't know of another vehicle as capable off-road that also has the capability to cary 4 comfortably at 90mph down the hwy all day long. There is no way a vehicle that drives this nice on road should be able to perform offroad the way it does.
 
Sniper here watching and reading....

Is there a better year to get of the lx450? Was e-lockers an option, or std for the lexus version?

Thanks for your input...
 
Sniper here watching and reading....

Is there a better year to get of the lx450? Was e-lockers an option, or std for the lexus version?

Thanks for your input...

Well, the LX450 was only available '96-97 and there are no real differences. E-lockers was an option. I think it was about a $1500 option - I still have the origonal window sticker - $58K is what it totalled out at if memory serves. I paid $11,500 5 years ago, and would probably be lucking to get more than $5k today. Guess 2K a year still isn't bad depreciation - if you don't count the mods of course :). I think lockers are a more common option on the Lexus - it just seems to show up on more of them, but it's a relatively small population.

If you look in the 80 section FAQ it has alot of info. on the different years. Biggest thing for me is the engines. 91-92 have the ole 3FE, '93-95 have basically the same engine as the '96-97 but there is a sensor difference that makes swapping engines from one to another more complex than just one for one. There is also a split in there as to which ones have air bags and which ones don't. Oh, and a tranny switch - from the impossibly overbuilt, to the only incredibly overbuilt.
 
Thanks for all the info. I'm going to trade my FJ in for a F150 work truck so I will have any payments. That will help us get out of debt much faster. I hope to pick up a trail only 80 sometime next year once our debt is gone. My wife even said once its all paid off I can get a offroad toy. Walking Eagle if you want to sell your rig next summer/fall then we might beable to work something out then.
thanks, Mike
 
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