Wanted Wing windows - '63-'74 style
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Thanks Poser, news to me and good to know. Do you know if they are different sizes and/or are the pivot and locking mechanisms different?
I'm converting some oem soft doors and need to find a set that will fit them best.
I'm converting some oem soft doors and need to find a set that will fit them best.
Come again? You want to try and put these on OE softtop door frames? For starters, I don't think the frame and glass are the same size. For sure the frame is not thick enough to mount the pivot to. If you take the time to LOOK at one installed on a door, you will see that the upper frame tapers, so that the top of the window is flush with the door frame, but the bottom is offset quite a bit which, for one thing, allows there to be protruding weatherstrip on BOTH sides of the window for it to seal on when it pivots shut.
How would you expect to support that weatherstrip. Not trying to burst your bubble, just asking a legitimate question.
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Mark A.
They are two completely different animals.
The early ones are known as the ‘bug catcher’ style, because they pivot in the rear and open at the front, into the wind, and have a little screw knob in the middle of the frame on the front side that secures the window and frame in position; open or closed.
The later style is more along the lines of the traditional wing window found on many automobiles and trucks. They pivot in the middle and have a catch on the rear that has a button release and a handle that rotates out of the way to allow the window to open.
You can search wing window or bug catcher out here and you should come up with some pictures of the different styles.
Or you could start a thread in the 45 section and ask for folks to post up a few pictures of the different styles.
They are a helpful bunch there.
Hope this helps!
-Steve
fj40 soft top doors
I have a nice set of early fj40 soft top doors //theses are canvas on a metal frame with slide of glass.$150 for the set.Dave at rockntag@msn.com for pictures and more info metal is great canvas is very nice too!
I have a nice set of early fj40 soft top doors //theses are canvas on a metal frame with slide of glass.$150 for the set.Dave at rockntag@msn.com for pictures and more info metal is great canvas is very nice too!
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Mark & Steve - thanks for your input and questions. This is a "figure it out as I go project" and it's been tough to make everything fit together. The pics below may answer some questions.
Crockett - I do not need soft doors but may know of some folks who would be interested. Are they still available?
Thanks for your help.
Randy
I need to get the measurements of the later style wing windows and the opening in the door to see what the differences are as compared to the soft doors. If they are different I want to see if I can alter the soft door window opening to accommodate the wing windows. This may be tough due to the offset that Mark refers to. It may not be worth the effort but it's nice to open those up on the highway to redirect the air from blasting in your face.
I bent the weatherstrip channels to conform to the lower half doors which will be wrapped in canvas.
Crockett - I do not need soft doors but may know of some folks who would be interested. Are they still available?
Thanks for your help.
Randy
i was comparing wing windows and doors and it looks like the earlier style wing window will be easier to make work. dont know all the years but 64,65 style seem to be the best because hinge is on the door post but its your call good luck
The problem with that route Robert is that not only does it use particular channels to support that type of weatherstrip, it would require weatherstrip that is basically unobtanium. IT would be much easier to cut down the later model glass and frame and at least get ahold of fresh weatherstripping to start with.
Now that I have seen the picks, I would make a further suggestion. Don't waste another minute on designing the upper half of the doors until you've had a chance to drive around with the lower half doors for a while. That 'stump' you've got sitting on the back end of the frame is an elbow buster FOR SURE.
IMO, you should rethink that before you go any further. The design IS interesting tho,Best
Mark A.
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I think I'm going to try this route. Once I get a set of the windows it should be easier to see what mods are necessary/possible.
You got that right! Already banged into it and then cut it flush with the top edge of the door. This pic shows the "stump" gone and flush with the edge.That 'stump' you've got sitting on the back end of the frame is an elbow buster FOR SURE.
wing windows I may have just the side
I may have just the side glass and frames if thats all you want Ialso still have factory soft doors canvas in good shape still for sale $75 each..they will work nice on any of your friends rigs, if you can't use them ..Dave at rockntag@msn.com
I may have just the side glass and frames if thats all you want Ialso still have factory soft doors canvas in good shape still for sale $75 each..they will work nice on any of your friends rigs, if you can't use them ..Dave at rockntag@msn.com
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