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i've read a lot of the posts on winches, and everyone likes the 8274, but i want a portable winch to go in a hitch in front or back. looking at new warn's, does anyone have opinions on the 9.5 or 9000? i've read their hydraulic winches are slow, but what about mile marker's electric winches?
 
I have a milemarker winch and I have no complaints. They may be slower than the WARN, but slow when winching is not necessaraly a bad thing. I'd pay a little more for a WARN (<$50), but the milemarker seems to work fine for me and a few others who have posted.

I agree the Warn is the top of the supply chain.

Ken
 
as I've posted many times, I'd rather disassemble the truck, remove it from the obstacle, and reassemble it than wait for a Milemarker electric to free me. useless, worthless, pathetically slow POS winch. Add in extra funds for food and a grill, since your trailmates will have plenty of spare time while you respool the unloaded cable....

Cruisers are also the top of the food chain...don't embarrass them with a Milemarker on the front....

Warn M8000 is a far better winch, and not much more in price. Also check out the TMaxx winches....similar to the MM but higher quality build and better motors.
 
I have never been Bitch slapped electronically before!

Well, I would rather have a slow POS milemarker than no winch at all. Mine came new in the box with the cruiser when I bought it. I negotiated it in.
 
Woody,
You better Bitch slap me again. I don't have a mile marker. Mine is called a Chicago. I did some research and they are made by Ramsey. Probably an even bigger POS. Well like I said, I got it thrown in for free with my cruiser new when I bought it. It's still probably better than no winch at all. Even if it fails, I can use the cable to have someone pull me out from up to 100 ft away.

Ken
 
You got the Harbor Freight special then....like $299 for the winch. I'd like to know how that works, my guess is since it's a Ramsey castoff, that it's a better winch than the MM.

I look at winch purchases this way....they aren't like tires, where you know you are stuck buying new every few years. My 1974 Warn Bellevue still works great...winches should be looked at as a near-lifetime purchase, and they CAN potentially be a lifesaving device. A 8274-50 is $1000...but over 20 years of ownership, it's relatively cheap. Also, when I need a winch to work, I NEED it to work....not have any concerns about the quality of the build or components, and have a nagging "fear" that it may not free my rig. I have been in situations where getting another rig into position to free mine would have been near-impossible....and a failed self-recovery would have landed me at the bottom of a ravine.

My Bellevue sits on the garage floor awaiting another project to be installed onto....the only reason I pulled that winch was because it didn't have the power-out option...something I had discovered I needed on rare occasions.
 
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I'd have to agree with Woody. One thing you don't want to go cheap on is for a winch.
 
I've got a little question, kinda geared towards woody and those that make winching a full-time hobby. I'm looking hard at getting a winch for the front of the 40, I don't imagine that I'd use the winch much, but I want to spend my money on something that I know will last. Warn really brags up the weather-proof features of the 9.5ti, and the line speed is fairly decent. Too me, it's a better buy than the standard 8K pound Warn, even though it $300 more. Would you experts consider the 9.5ti a really good compromise between the standard 8k and 8274? I want the security of knowing that it will work when I really need it, without paying alot extra for performance that I know I'll never use.
 
IMO, the Warn line as a whole is quality stuff....I also like the weather proof features of the ti unit. I would not consider the 9500ti a compromise at all.

What I particularly like about the install of a 8274 on a Cruiser or Jeep is HOW it pulls....the winch mounts behind the front bumper (or should) and you are pulling directly thru the frame rails. "all" other units (and IMO, incorrectly mounted 8274's) are mounted on TOP of the frame rails, and that twisting action "could" be bad under extreme pull situations. I have watched frames flex from winching....any top mount you install needs a LONG mounting surface on the frame rails.

I may be in the winch market this winter for a new project, and the smaller Warn's are what I most likely will end up with (6000#'er in my case).
 
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I've got a little question, kinda geared towards woody and those that make winching a full-time hobby.
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I wouldn't have posted if I'd seen the price fj40charles had shown for a 8274, I noticed it this morning, and it's alot cheaper than I've seen everywhere else. That's why I was looking at a compromise between the two extremes.

Woody, the 8274 needs to be mounted so the line pulls through the center of the bumper, correct? I had the local machine shop brake me a new bumper out of 1/4" plate where the ID's match that of the factory bumper. I had it done a few months ago, but couldn't decide on the winch I was going to run, so the bumper has been laying on the shop floor untouched since. Is 3/8" plate welded to the back between the frame-horns (winch mount) and the fair lead centered (through the middle) in front of the bumper the best way?? Is it enough reinforcement or going to be strong enough?
 
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