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i just want to say how happy i am to be here :) in cruiser heaven. i have recently found my love for my 93 cruiser(poor wife) :cheers: that i vow to be with till death do us part(i will probably die first). this is the best truck i have ever had. EVER. I didn't even know that trucks existed that drive like this.

problem is, a month after i bought it, one day the truck started shaking like a california earthquake at 40 mph, so i stopped and noticed oil coming out of the drivers side wheel well. I took it to a shop, where they re-sealed something and sent me on my way. ever since, there has been an annoying whine from the front axle at 40+ mph, and it sounds worse at lower rpm when at this speed.

i took it to a transmission mechanic, and he told me that the whining would not get better or worse, and it wouldn't leave me stranded or effect my performance. He said that if i got too annoyed with the noise, that i could replace the front axle, but he said that he would just keep driving it. I have put 3,000 miles on it since, and there is no change. What do you think?

i am not very experienced with mechanics, but i bought some tools and a manual, because i plan on having this truck 4ever, and i dont want just any monkey(not you, monkey) working on my car, and i dont know any good mechanics. I am willing to learn my truck inside and out to keep it running perfect forever. If there is any information you can give me about this whining, please let me know. If you can help, i will love you almost as much as i love my truck(yeah right!!). no, really, thanks a lot for your input. :)

also, it has 100,000 miles on it. is any maintenance needed besides oil? It seems to run perfect, except for the whine.
concerning tires, what are the biggest tires i can put on the truck and still leave it stock?

THANKS
 
>> what are the biggest tires i can put on the truck and still leave it stock? <<

33" equivalents will fit if you're mall cruising but why would you want to keep it stock?

>>... where they re-sealed something and sent me on my way. <<

Pull your invoice and find out what they did and post back here. Give them a call if you need to get more information. The above statement is too vague and we'll all be guessing.... but that doesn't stop some folks from chiming in. :D

>> ... but i bought some tools and a manual, <<

If you bought the '94 (or '93) FSM then you're in good shape. The Haynes will provide marginal information and is OK as a supplement but it is not a replacement for the Toyota manuals. If you're planning to do wiring then you'll want the EWD in addition to the FSM.

-B-
 
Thanks

thanks for the feedback, Beowulf!

as far as the seal info goes, i had it done on a trip back from ny, and i have no idea where the place was. as for the receipt, my nucklehead wife thought it was garbage and its sitting 30 ft underground somewhere in the boonies :doh:

as for the mods, there is nothing more i would love to do than modify my cruiser, but mommy and daddy dont pay for engineering school, and since i need new tires anyway, i figure i can come up with at least enough money to get the biggest ones possible.

by the way, i read your book this summer. good job whupping that dragon's :censor:
 
>> (I still think Grendel should have won.) <<

I'll remember that.

-B-
 
to answer your question, land tank, i live in charleston, south carolina.
(STOP LAUGHING) :o yep, i have to drive 300 miles just to see if my lockers still work!

so, guys, any answers to my whiny front axle? i know i am leading you blindly, but come on, do i really have the only land cruiser in history to do that? let me answer that question, YES. Is it even possible to buy, dare i say, a lemon landcruiser? it only has 100,000 miles on it!

make some wild guesses, beowulf. hell, if you can save that rich bastard hrothgar in denmark, then this should seem easy! i might not send you away with a boatful of gold, but howabout "a penny for your thoughts" , or here, even better, some popcorn :popcorn:
 
Hijack... What type of engineering? I am a ME major at the U of U in SLC... :D
 
mechanical enginerring at the university of utah in salt lake city ut.
pretty sure anyways, (God I hate to admit I miss SLC)
as far as the whine with 100k on the clock I woudl be willing to take the stab in the dark that you inner axle seal failed, sent goo a flying out the knuckle(look at the axle on the outside) whoever "fixed"it for you probably over tightened the wheel bearings and hence the whine. problem is your bearings are probably toast now. Search through the archives and look for "birfield" by author Jim Phillips, if memory serves it is in the faq, Semlin also did a great write up on these.
at 100k you need to do this anyways but I will not be surprised at all if this is your problem.
Dave
 
A shimmy and oil coming out the wheel well? Doesn't sound like a birfield unless it was so neglected it failed and siezed or grenaded. A dollar amount for the repair would tell us a bit as you'd remember this repair quite clearly if it were that type of repair (around $1000 in parts alone). It sounds like your wheel bearing went, and someone ripped you off by claiming you needed a birf repack/reseal. Anyhow, very little point in guessing with no clue what went wrong or what failed - that's about the biggest fishing expedition I've seen posted here yet.

DougM
 
>> make some wild guesses, beowulf. <<

If you insist. (And it's Beowulf with a capital B. This is your final warning.)

My guess is the LF inner wheel bearing gave up and they had to pull the hub to replace the bearing and the seal. The bearing failure likely was prolonged due to driving with a loose wheel bearing for an extended time. The loose bearing caused some problem with excessive wear on the hub surface. The new bearing helped for a while but it's now making a noise indicating the hub needs to be replaced. But this is just a guess so take it to someone and have them check before you spend big $$$ on a new hub. The good news is that a new hub will have the much-lusted-after roller bearing spindle. Ohhhh baby.

-B-
 
I like that guess a lot.

DougM
 
Thanks

thanks a lot for the info, guys, especially with such a :censor: description. I actually paid only 150 dollars for the work that they did, so they probably didn't do much. There was a lot of goo around that area as well. They said a lot of the differential oil had leaked out, so they refilled it and they suggested that i have it checked when i get back, hence, i thought it was coming from the front axle. Is it possible for gears to make a whining noise during acceleration? would the birf affect noise only during acceleration?

seeing as i am a rookie(just check my status), are these birf jobs possible for an unexperienced mechanic? i have done some minor stuff to my other trucks, including alternator replacements, rear leaf spring replacements, and minor add ons. Is this the kind of job where it is critical to have a very experienced mechanic, or will research and patience be enough? how long does this job take a good mechanic to do? (i can take this number, multiply it by 4, add half of that to take it all apart again, factor in 3hrs at the local bar :beer: weeping, and then add another day or two to get it right.)



thanks again Doug and Beowulf
 
sorry, cruiseroutfit, I am just as dumb as i look. i thought you were bustin my balls! I am going for civil engineering. I have a lot of good friends in the mechanical engineering field. really cool guys. what kind of work do you do?

when i grow up, i want to be a TOYS R US kid!!
 
>> Is this the kind of job where it is critical to have a very experienced mechanic, <<
>> or will research and patience be enough? <<

Research and patience and shop towels. Several forum members have done it with less experience than you have. Those that have done it were diligent in their research and asked questions if they were not sure of something or needed advice on tools. The successful ones got their parts from C-Dan. Those that didn't usually need a couple of extra weekends while they scrounge around for the right parts.

>> how long does this job take a good mechanic to do? <<

I think Robbie does this job in about 8 hrs. My recommendation for first-timers is to allocate a 3 day weekend if you're really slow and have no help. Allocate two 12 hr days if you need to complete it over the weekend. If you have an experienced friend and both are helping clean, etc. then you can do the job in ~12 hrs.

-B-
 
thanks again B, and i will be sure to take your suggestion of using C-dan. (or should i maintain my rookie status, shop around to find the cheapest part, realize i got what i payed for, and spend the money i saved on AA meetings)
any guess at the cost?
 
I pulled my TRD AF out and put an OEM paper filter back in. If you wheel a lot in very dusty conditions then my recommendation is to stick with the best filtration possible; the Toyota paper AF.

-B-
 
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