A year back at work there was a guy who drove an FJ 40 in, and parked not to far from me. One day I was walking past my rig when he got out of his, and he did not know the FJ was mine, but said they sure are ugly, and not any good off road, my 40 will wipe up that FJ Cruiser off road anytime. I said really, does yours have a factory rear locker, or an aftermarket one? He said, uh nope. I said does yours have the A-trac system up front that helps for off road traction? He said, uh nope. I said where is your winch, this FJ Cruiser has one. He did not say anything, and I proceeded to say that my FJ Cruiser you are talking about will spank yours 24/7 off road and on road any day of the week. He jaw about his the pavement, he had nothing to say and walked away. Put him in his place I did.