Well boys..

[threatminor]

The ordeal is complete, all axle and hub assembies are all put back together. I have only to install the new brake pads and I'm off the jack stands, I would have done the pads tonight, but I noticed I have no shims, and the FSM and my haynes manual both show inner and outer shims for both sides? Anyone else encountered this? Should I just put the pads on with no shims, or do I need to hit the dealership up on monday for correct shims?

Also, I had a hard time getting my outer wheel bearing preload to have the correct tension. I had to do it a million times, it sucked. In regards to that I had another observation/question. During the process I lost my thrust washers and had to get two new ones( from nearby dealership ). Any rate, after everything was put together and I was cleaning everything up, I found one of the original ones and I noticed it has a groove on one side, whereas the ones I bought and installed were perfectly flat on both sides? Could this have had anything to do with my ordeal in getting the outer wheel bearing preload set? Could this cause a problem?

Now I just have to hope everything works once I start driving it again this week!

 

[MoJ]

I have only to install the new brake pads and I'm off the jack stands, I would have done the pads tonight, but I noticed I have no shims, and the FSM and my haynes manual both show inner and outer shims for both sides? Anyone else encountered this?

Several have reported getting in there and finding the shims missing. Works fine without them. IIRC if you switch to 100 series pads the shims won't fit anyway.

 

[Beowulf]

During the process I lost my thrust washers and had to get two new ones( from nearby dealership).

Those things are huge.... how could you lose 2 of them?

If it took you 1,000,000 attempts at setting the wheel bearing preload then you are doing something incorrectly. That would have dawned on most people around 100 times... probably before that.

My guess is that the wheel bearing races were not fully seated in the hub correctly and each iteration you were seating them a little more. Were you torqueing the bottom hub nut to 76 ft/lbs? That should snug up the wheel bearings... then you back it off.

-B-

 

[medtro]

My guess is that the wheel bearings were not fully seated in the hub correctly and each iteration you were seating them a little more. Were you torqueing the bottom hub nut to 76 ft/lbs? That should snug up the wheel bearings... then you back it off.

-B-

What is bottom hub nut?

If you are thinking wheel bearing lock nut, 76 ft lbs sounds high, where did you get this number?

 

[nakman]

If you thrush washer had a groove in it it's good that you replaced it. That would suggest you had a loose bearing before.. there should be no groove. And I think it's closer to 50 ft pounds for setting the preload... regardless hit the FAQ's to brush up before your next million attempts.

 

[cruiserdan]

Were you torqueing the bottom hub nut to 76 ft/lbs? T

Make that 47 lb/ft.......

 

[threatminor]

That's the thing..

I was very meticulous and exaxt with all the torque specs and really tried to make sure the hub was completely seated. 43 lbs, right 3 times, left 3 times, check 43 again. loosen till you can barely turn it by hand and make sure it's only about as tight as you can go by hand, check preload, every time good at this point. Then insert lock washer and lock nut and torque to 47, and every time it would be a little too tight( only one side by the way, the ps, the Ds ended up good right away).

Any rate Beowulf, I actually got the distinct feeling, like you said, that every time I did it, it was getting a little bit closer, judging by my fish scale. And since no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't pinpoint a reason really, so I just kept doing it over, until it finally was in spec. and it felt good as far as I could tell. When they say to check for play, do they mean whether or not is seems to be wobbling?

That is crazy about the thrust washer then, it seriously looked like a perfectly machined groove, so I thought it came like that. I'm glad I misplaced them long enough to force me to buy new ones then!

 

[Beowulf]

... where did you get this number?

Easy there medtro.

Make that 47 lb/ft.......

Yes Dan, that would be 47 ft/lbs. 76 is for the alloy wheels. That's what I get for shooting from the hip.

-B-

 

[Beowulf]

When they say to check for play, do they mean whether or not is seems to be wobbling?

Yes. Grab the tyre at 12 & 6 and give it a vigorous shake as though you were trying to take it off. If you feel wobble (play) then the bearings are too loose.

-B-

 

[medtro]

Easy there medtro.

-B-

Easy there B, it was a simple question. I was thinking may be another printing error from Toyota, and you have the latest information, that's it.