Weird AC Issue, Possible Failure?

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Hi All,
Yesterday i had some weird AC issues to the point where it stopped working and i wanted to see if anyone has any ideas as to why this happened.

Some context:
I bought my 2000 LX470 in 11/22 and the AC was not working, I gave it to a shop in 11/24 and they deleted the rear AC and recharged the system and it worked beautifully. the work was done in the midwest (about 2 hours south of chicago). I then drove the car to the west coast where i used the AC every day for about 8 months. During my time on the west cost i noticed small amounts of die on the bottom of the condenser. I knew that it would have to be addressed at sometime and hoped that i could have the AC last until the summer months ended.

Where my issues started to arise.
Upon driving back to the midwest in 8/25 I started to notice that there was some mist or fog coming from the vents. I pulled over immediately thinking i was overheating however there was no coolant/oil smell or drips. I assumed that this was due to the extreme humidity and heat and it was normal for the AC to do this (it was like 96ºF and 92% humidity that day). This only happened i left the recirculate off. When i parked the car that day there had to have been a gallon of water that came out of the AC drain. Once again i assumed this was normal due to the extreme heat and humidity that day.
Ive attached a picture below of the mist/fog coming from the vents

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When i continued to use the AC after this day i noticed a mildew-ey smell for the first couple of minutes as if there was some water in the system that didnt drain properly.

When the AC stopped working:
Yesterday I drove to OH and the AC started to mist/fog and i just thought this was normal as it wasnt the first time this happened. However i noticed that the passenger vents were not cold and the driver side vents were not as cold as they used to be. I switched it to recirculate and it got a bit better for the vents on the driver side however the passenger side vents were warm. After a couple hours on the road i noticed that my the air on the driver side started to warm up to the same temperature as the passenger side.

Resolution?
Im assuming that i will need to fix the leak on the condenser and get a recharge however could there be more issues as well? Should i clean out the drain hole for the AC, I know toyota sells a foam kit that you stick up the drain hole. I was also considering sticking some weed wacker wire through the hole to dislodge any debris. Is it possible that the receiver-drier isnt working properly and i didnt notice any issues before because i was using the AC on the west coast with little to no humidity ?

Does anyone have any other ideas as to what could be causing this issue?
Thanks in advance
 
The misting/fog and freezing up typically means the AC is *under*charged, of all things. I'd fix any leaks and recharge the system with the correct amount of refrigerant - whatever that is without the rear AC circuit.
 
Had basically the same symptoms as you last year, including the misting, which we also originally assumed was extremely high humidity (33C and rain). I assume the flow from the vents also dropped off?

The root of the issue was low AC charge due to a leaking pressure sensor. The low AC volume was causing over cooling of the evaporator which was icing up and losing efficiency at the same time as blocking the air flow. The first time it did it I disassembled the HVAC unit to see the evaporator which had turned into a solid block of ice. It took about 1hr with the HVAC fan blowing and the evaporator lid off to defrost and dumped out a couple of litres of water, much like yours did.

If you can live without AC until the leak is fixed and AC recharged, then do that. If you can't live without it, we managed to complete our trip by manually cycling the AC on and off with the AC button. Turning the AC off when airflow from the vents started to drop and back on when the air got warm (it was quite a noticeable inflection in vent temp. It was best to leave the fan on speed 3 - more air over the evapotator to give it heat energy and stave off icing and easier to notice drop off in air flow. The above cycle was every 20-30mins in the ambient temperatures we were in, ~32C.

I think your fix is straightforward - new condensor and a recharge. Out of interest, what charge did your guy recommend with the rear system deleted? Mine ended up at 850g after I capped the lines in the engine bay.
 
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Had basically the same symptoms as you last year, including the misting, which we also originally assumed was extremely high humidity (33C and rain). I assume the flow from the vents also dropped off?

The root of the issue was low AC charge due to a leaking pressure sensor. The low AC volume was causing over cooling of the evaporator which was icing up and losing efficiency at the same time as blocking the air flow. The first time it did it I disassembled the HVAC unit to see the evaporator which had turned into a solid block of ice. It took about 1hr with the HVAC fan blowing and the evaporator lid off to defrost and dumped out a couple of litres of water, much like yours did.

If you can live without AC until the leak is fixed and AC recharged, then do that. If you can't live without it, we managed to complete our trip by manually cycling the AC on and off with the AC button. Turning the AC off when airflow from the vents started to drop and back on when the air got warm (it was quite a noticeable inflection in vent temp. It was best to leave the fan on speed 3 - more air over the evapotator to give it heat energy and stave off icing and easier to notice drop off in air flow. The above cycle was every 20-30mins in the ambient temperatures we were in, ~32C.

I think your fix is straightforward - new condensor and a recharge. Out of interest, what charge did your guy recommend with the rear system deleted? Mine ended up at 850g after I capped the lines in the engine bay.
He placed a sticker on the airbox with the proper amount of refrigerant, I will check when i get home today.
 
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