WEBER VS OEM: The Facts

[stinkyfj60]

I plan to run a snorkle in my 60 someday. The Weber is better for that application than the stock carb and US style air cleaner, then non-US style aircleaner is EXPENSIVE. I run a FJ62 Aircleaner, custom adapter and Weber Plenum... Someday when I decide to add a snorkle, my airintake is now on the correct side of the vehicle.

 

[cahilc]

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BTW if they suck so bad why does EDELBROCK have WEBBER make thier carbs? ...

Because it's about *matching* compontents. If you don't have the right carb, intake manifold, distributor setup ... nothing will work right. Even cam too for that matter ...

Cheers,
Cahil

P.S. If you set the Webber up right it will work ... but you have to modify a bunch of other stuff to get the right combination. The Webber is not a plug and run solution.

 

[stinkyfj60]

The two biggest draw backs to Webers on 60s IMO is the linkage and the damned adapter. Nothing sucks worse than the cable linkage, I returned mine to the rod linkage and I still have a problem here and there.
The adapter sucks, I hate having two extra places for vacuum leaks. On my 22R it sits on an Offy that was made for the Weber, way cool But at the same time, if you take it easy and dont over torque the bolts you should have a problem.

 

[kulangot]

you hate them so much you cant even spell it "W E B E R"
BTW if they suck so bad why does EDELBROCK have WEBBER make thier carbs?

Why don't you go ask around about Edelbrock carbs, they kind of suck too.

They are not very well regarded by anybody except for wet behind the ears new guys such as yourself!!! We call them catalog experts.

 

[2badfjs]

Q:They are not very well regarded by anybody except for wet behind the ears new guys such as yourself!!! We call them catalog experts.
ha ha!!!! WHATEVER

lets just say, i'll keep my weber on my built 2f. it's match just perfect. FROM A CATALOGE...

 

[kulangot]

Q:They are not very well regarded by anybody except for wet behind the ears new guys such as yourself!!! We call them catalog experts.
ha ha!!!! WHATEVER

lets just say, i'll keep my weber on my built 2f. it's match just perfect. FROM A CATALOGE...

It's like the guys I used to ride with would say, "my bike is made of lead and it's the best bike ever made". Meaning, what people choose, no matter how bad or good, is what they say is the best, right or wrong. The made a choice and they will defend it, regardless.

If your happy with it and it works for you, so be it.

I will say that a hot rodded 2F has never been sensible in my perspective (I have built one myself), all that effort and $$$$ and your better off with a V8. Hot rodded 2F's are dumpster fodder. Now I am really trying to piss you off

Buy hey, if you like ugly women too, that's awesome. Have at it.

 

[2badfjs]

It's like the guys I used to ride with would say, "my bike is made of lead and it's the best bike ever made". Meaning, what people choose, no matter how bad or good, is what they say is the best, right or wrong. The made a choice and they will defend it, regardless.

If your happy with it and it works for you, so be it.

I will say that a hot rodded 2F has never been sensible in my perspective (I have built one myself), all that effort and $$$$ and your better off with a V8. Hot rodded 2F's are dumpster fodder. Now I am really trying to piss you off

Buy hey, if you like ugly women too, that's awesome. Have at it.

-Stumbaugh

you cant make me mad no matter how hard you try
it's not in me to get mad, not worth the effort
the only reason to put a v8 in is to tow another cruiser
i will take my built 2f over a v8 on the trail anyday

i am happy (pretty much all the time) AND it works great with my build

ugly women need lovin too....

 

[nikos8]

Why don't you go ask around about Edelbrock carbs, they kind of suck too.

They are not very well regarded by anybody except for wet behind the ears new guys such as yourself!!! We call them catalog experts.

2badfjs is a new guy? Huh! What does that make me? Unborn perhaps.

 

[2badfjs]

2badfjs is a new guy? Huh! What does that make me? Unborn perhaps.

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,
44 years old and still kick'n(barely)
sellin parts for over 20, but tell anyone shhhhhhhhhhh!

 

[lowtideride]

you cant make me mad no matter how hard you try
it's not in me to get mad, not worth the effort
the only reason to put a v8 in is to tow another cruiser
i will take my built 2f over a v8 on the trail anyday

i am happy (pretty much all the time) AND it works great with my build

ugly women need lovin too....

Ill give ya a hell yeah for the above even though you like webers

 

[jb welda]

>Webbers are what makes Fiat's the POS we all know them to be

that is *so* funny! ever hear of ferrari? i believe they use webers. go to a scca race some time...webers are the carb of choice.

dellortos? they are tractor carbs. the vw world was switched over to them as the "carb de jour" many years ago and guess what? no one has them anymore. i think they stopped importing them. on my 2 litre vw motor i had nothing but problems with dellortos and those problems persisted until i switched to webers (and had someone set them up properly). then all was good in the world and they never even required tweaking once set up properly.

im not arguing anything is better quality than made in japan stuff because typically japanese stuff is beyond reproach but to dismiss weber carbs offhand is a serious mistake. fiats have many problems aside from induction systems; dont blame their problems on weber carbs. besides not all fiats are pos's; many abarth modified fiats kick a$$ (and that includes japanese vehicle a$$).

sorry for the rant but its just not making sense. whether a specific weber carb along with the adapters etc necessary to run on a cruiser is a completely different subject and personally i would rather keep it stock. keep in mind thats from a guy with a fuel injected chevy small block in his 60.

one love
jah bill

 

[kulangot]

you cant make me mad no matter how hard you try
it's not in me to get mad, not worth the effort
the only reason to put a v8 in is to tow another cruiser
i will take my built 2f over a v8 on the trail anyday

i am happy (pretty much all the time) AND it works great with my build

ugly women need lovin too....

Allright man, I'll give up trying to make you mad.

Like I said, if you like it, it's all that matters.

 

[2badfjs]

Allright man, I'll give up trying to make you mad.

Like I said, if you like it, it's all that matters.

-Stumbaugh

peace! let go have a
it's 5 o'clock somewhere in the world

 

[kulangot]

peace! let go have a
it's 5 o'clock somewhere in the world

Sounds like a plan to me.



I have a buddy that is moving out to Colorado. You anywhere near Pine? 45 miles south west of Denver.

He's got a 40 and a 60 and is looking for a 45.

He'll be heading out that way on Monday.

 

[2badfjs]

Sounds like a plan to me.



I have a buddy that is moving out to Colorado. You anywhere near Pine? 45 miles south west of Denver.

He's got a 40 and a 60 and is looking for a 45.

He'll be heading out that way on Monday.

-Stumbaugh

i belive it is west of castle rock(where i live)20 miles south of denver

 

[REKCUT]

One of the funny things about carbs is that they have to be set up correctly on a rig..

Amazingly enough, Jim and Mark (65SWB45) have figured out how to make a Asin carb absolutely sing.. There are others that can do that with a mallory. And even further, I had a Holley 350 that woudl not die unless it was at stupid angles..

Yes the Aisin is an excellent carb. So is the webber and so it the holley. They just all need someone to tweak them to a point that they perform the best..

I didnt think I would ever be completely on Mace's side but I think he hit it on the head. Any piece of equipment installed wrong is not going to work !! With experience there are a lot of mechanics who can make just about anything "sing". Just because you had a webbber that didnt run right, that doesn't make all webbbers junk and I can vouch for the fact that many Aisin product that have been installed by Toyota techs dont work correctly but it's usually due to the tech and not the product. If you get new tires and the wheel falls off because the tire guy didnt tighten the lug nuts, its not the tires fault.

 

[Gumby]

you hate them so much you cant even spell it "W E B E R"
BTW if they suck so bad why does EDELBROCK have WEBBER make thier carbs?

You ever run an Edelbrock? There's a POS carb.

My 60, BTW, has the same carb as my 55. Great on the street and great off road.

The mighty quadrajet.

 

[JasonH]

Well, just for another data point, I'll throw out that my Motorcraft carb on my 2F kicks ass.

If someone hadn't stolen my stock carb I'd still be running it. But I probably wouldn't switch back to stock now. This works great in all conditions and it was almost free.

 

[2badfjs]

You ever run an Edelbrock? There's a POS carb.

My 60, BTW, has the same carb as my 55. Great on the street and great off road.

The mighty quadrajet.

COME ON! ol' vic would'nt endorse a crappy carb would he?

to each thier own

 

[jb welda]

moronic? thanks for the compliment.

ferraris are POS? hmmm, thats interesting. yes they take tuning; most high strung cars do. americans are used to mall cruisers so anything that requires a bit of tweaking is a "pos" to a lot of folks.

>What Dellortos did you try, the crappy assed one barrels?

dont recall right offhand but they were two barrel, a dual dell setup on cast aluminum manifolds. didnt "try" them, ran them for a few years.

as i said im not debating whether weber (spelling) is the right carb for a land cruiser, im taking exception to your statements regarding weber (spelling) and dellorto carbs.

and ive had three 356s that ran weber (spelling) carbs quite successfully.

and like i said the webers (spelling) ive used required very little mainenance once they were set up. the dells on the other hand required constant fiddling. as i mentioned above thats pretty normal for performance cars but just thought i would mention it.

anyhow it seems you have your mind made up so have a nice life in your world of crap ferraris and tractor carbs. im off in my own world of cheby v8 with fuel injection and now theres something that doesnt require tweaking.

of course there *is* my lotus seven with twin webers (spelling) but i wont go into that.

one love
jah bill