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All the hvac buttons work. I havent tested that one specifically as it was close to 100 deg yesterday
None of these work with the rear entertainment system
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None of these work with the rear entertainment system
Hey @Romer, are you still using the OEM cameras? I’d like to be able to get better resolution but I think that means running all new wires to the head unit. I currently have high res camera on the rear but I wired it to the OEM harness so I don’t get any better resolution.
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I am still using the OEM Cameras.
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I went through the setup and configuration today and spent quite a bit of time troubleshooting a Chrome browser issue. It works as a web page but wont save bookmarks or synch with my Google account. I couldnt login to Gaia as that logs in through the web page before logging the app in. Gmail etc worked.
I then loaded the Edge browser and everything works fine and was able to login to Gaia. I did send an email asking how to delete the Chrome app so I can reinstall it. It won't allow me to delete or update it.
I also updated my OBD Fusion based on inputs from @linuxgod . The hard one to figure out was which was the gear display and he pointed me to ABS/VSC/TRAC as “Status of the gear position / Fail or 1st or 2nd or 3rd…” He also let me know the status of the turque converter can be found under “Engine or Electronically Controller Transmission” as “status of the lock up” I haven't installed that one yet
I looked into the split screen using Magic Earth app for navigation and it seemed to work pretty well. I did go in an reduce the number of POIs like the P for parking
Pretty good GPS reception. I am still using the after market puck I installed for the older unit. Amazon.com: Proxicast Active/Passive GPS Antenna - Through Hole Screw Mount Puck Style with Right Angle SMA Connector on 20 inch Coax Lead - 28 dB LNA (ANT-190-003) : Electronics - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08RW7R8KH?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_1
I then tried using my Phone as a Mobile Hot spot
verified the Hot spot with Google Maps as well
I then switched to Android Auto which shuts off the Vhedia unit Music Player but will switch to the Phone player with no issues in a split screen. Mine always comes up with the split screen since that is how I closed it
I did not test the windshield lower heat strip for the wipers as it is hot here now. I never use that anyways.
Steering wheel buttons all work. There is no function for the speach button, I was hoping to map that to the Mute function. Will look into that more
So right now:
Only caveat to all this Is I have very little road use on the unit, but I have not seen any behavior to make me concerned about long duration use.
I then loaded the Edge browser and everything works fine and was able to login to Gaia. I did send an email asking how to delete the Chrome app so I can reinstall it. It won't allow me to delete or update it.
I also updated my OBD Fusion based on inputs from @linuxgod . The hard one to figure out was which was the gear display and he pointed me to ABS/VSC/TRAC as “Status of the gear position / Fail or 1st or 2nd or 3rd…” He also let me know the status of the turque converter can be found under “Engine or Electronically Controller Transmission” as “status of the lock up” I haven't installed that one yet
I looked into the split screen using Magic Earth app for navigation and it seemed to work pretty well. I did go in an reduce the number of POIs like the P for parking
Pretty good GPS reception. I am still using the after market puck I installed for the older unit. Amazon.com: Proxicast Active/Passive GPS Antenna - Through Hole Screw Mount Puck Style with Right Angle SMA Connector on 20 inch Coax Lead - 28 dB LNA (ANT-190-003) : Electronics - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08RW7R8KH?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_1
I then tried using my Phone as a Mobile Hot spot
verified the Hot spot with Google Maps as well
I then switched to Android Auto which shuts off the Vhedia unit Music Player but will switch to the Phone player with no issues in a split screen. Mine always comes up with the split screen since that is how I closed it
I did not test the windshield lower heat strip for the wipers as it is hot here now. I never use that anyways.
Steering wheel buttons all work. There is no function for the speach button, I was hoping to map that to the Mute function. Will look into that more
So right now:
- I have the full capabilities of Android Auto which allows me to use Google Maps through my phone or see and respond to texts as well as others apps like Gaia and Wazee
- I can use my phone as a Hot spot to use Google maps from within the head unit or surf the internet
- I can use Magic Earth for Navigation using on board maps without the internet or Android Auto
- I have Gaia Topo maps that works on the Unit or via Android Auto since I have it installed on both devices using downloaded maps and tracks
- All buttons and switchs work
- HVAC controls work
- I have key OBD data on a screen, split screen to share with Maps, Music or other apps
- Split screen function works well and you choose the app. However, you can't split screen Android Auto with another app. You can split screen apps within Android Auto from your phone
- There is a USB Port to load music files, etc
- There is 128GB of memory vs the small amount I had before. Can't remember if it was 16GB or a little more
- Music sounds pretty good to me although I haven't adjusted the settings and there are quite a few in the equalizer. Maybe on a long car ride
- Chrome doesn't work, but Microsoft Edge does so no loss of functionality, just want the apps to work
- I can see the screen better (Anti-glare), but it also shows fingerprints more.
- Sometimes it take a bit to get to the home screen, but figureing it out. If I press the Apps button and then the back key it goes to the Home Screen. With 1 or no apps open, pressing the home buttom goes there. Sometimes with lots of stuff open the home button doesn't and you get there through the apps button. Likely my just getting use to how it works
- You have to set the split screens you want every time you start the truck
Only caveat to all this Is I have very little road use on the unit, but I have not seen any behavior to make me concerned about long duration use.
I wish split screen was a permanent thing on these… really just functioning as two independent screens.
If my audio system ever dies I’m following in your footsteps. in the meantime I was trying to find one of those “roadtop” style screens that could sideload Android apps like OBD Fusion, but I’ve yet to locate one. Those are running Linux but only do CarPlay and Android auto, and while I’m not sure about Android auto the OBD Fusion functionality sucks in CarPlay.
If my audio system ever dies I’m following in your footsteps. in the meantime I was trying to find one of those “roadtop” style screens that could sideload Android apps like OBD Fusion, but I’ve yet to locate one. Those are running Linux but only do CarPlay and Android auto, and while I’m not sure about Android auto the OBD Fusion functionality sucks in CarPlay.
My EC Offroad “Tesla” unit has always allowed split screen between two apps. It’s a little quirky in that I’ve never figured out how to get a specific app on the top or bottom. Nav apps seem to always go to the top half and everything else goes to the bottom.
I never got CarPlay to run reliably and just gave up. Don’t really need it as you can run the apps like OBF Fusion directly.
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I was able to get some to work. I never tried OBD fusion on the previous Tesla unit. Those were not the primary reasons I wanted to upgrade if you go back to post 1, but I am very happy with how they are working on the new unit
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Vhedia responded pretty quickly. Chrome is built into the firmware and I can update/reinstall the firmware. However, it will delete all the apps I installed and reset all the settings back to factory. It doesn't look like there is a newer version of firmware out. Since I have Edge set up as the browser and everything is working, I think I will leave it be for now. Chrome still works as a browwser and all the other google apps work
They are checking with the factory to see if there is a way to map the speach button to the mute function
BTW- Yesterday I finally received an answer from Phoenix Automotive I asked in early July when I was tryiong to decide what unit to order
I asked if their unit used a Qualcomm or intel processor, I was wanting to know what the processor was. After a month the responded by saying it wasnt a Qualcomm of Intel processor, but didnt say which one it was. The web site fopr Phoenix says quad core. The web site from the manufacturer says QualComm 665. I am guessing it is more of the language problem I had with my other questions. Glad I bought from someone with a much better support system and response time even at a much higher cost
They are checking with the factory to see if there is a way to map the speach button to the mute function
BTW- Yesterday I finally received an answer from Phoenix Automotive I asked in early July when I was tryiong to decide what unit to order
I asked if their unit used a Qualcomm or intel processor, I was wanting to know what the processor was. After a month the responded by saying it wasnt a Qualcomm of Intel processor, but didnt say which one it was. The web site fopr Phoenix says quad core. The web site from the manufacturer says QualComm 665. I am guessing it is more of the language problem I had with my other questions. Glad I bought from someone with a much better support system and response time even at a much higher cost
Hi @Romer , thanks for all the helpful info above. Was curious to know the start up time in the morning? I have a replacement head unit on my LC200, 15inch horizontal, reasonably functional, but it takes an age to load and until up and running there is no reverse camera available.
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I didnt time a cold boot. I would guess 30 seconds plus or minus
There is a stting of how long you want to hold it in standby. Mine is 72 hours. Within that 72 hours, it comes up instantly
Looks like you have a 2019, so would be a different unit.
The only thing that I don't like so far is it seems to collect fingerprints faster than my old unit so I keep a microfiber cloth handy. Of course I aam touching the screen a lot getting it dailed in with OBD dsiplays and sound settings etc.
There is a stting of how long you want to hold it in standby. Mine is 72 hours. Within that 72 hours, it comes up instantly
Looks like you have a 2019, so would be a different unit.
The only thing that I don't like so far is it seems to collect fingerprints faster than my old unit so I keep a microfiber cloth handy. Of course I aam touching the screen a lot getting it dailed in with OBD dsiplays and sound settings etc.
I put a matte finish screen protector on mine and in an attempt to help with glare and it also helps a little with finger prints but finger prints are going to just be part of any touch screen.
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Do you have a link? I looked yesterday aand haad trouble finding the right size.
This would be great! Thanks
I bought Nuschield protector with the “day view” finish. They make protectors for thousands of devices. I could not find one that exactly match the dimensions so I bought one and then cut it down to size. This is what I bought:
Order Now - NuShield Dayvue and Anti-glare Screen Protectors
In five easy steps, you can protect your digital device… *Models marked with an asterisk are sealed screens. These films use a 3/16″ wide, strip around the outer film edges to adhere to standard antiglare film only. DayVue and Triple A films are not affected. Elo screens can have several...
Searching their site though I see some Phoenix Automotive PX6 protectors so maybe they have something already set to the right size.
I did the same thing for my Tacoma, but used a different product that was made for the fourth GEN vehicles with the big screen. If you’re interested in that, just DM me.
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I bought one on Amazon and trimmed it down using a photo cutterI bought Nuschield protector with the “day view” finish. They make protectors for thousands of devices. I could not find one that exactly match the dimensions so I bought one and then cut it down to size. This is what I bought:
Order Now - NuShield Dayvue and Anti-glare Screen Protectors
In five easy steps, you can protect your digital device… *Models marked with an asterisk are sealed screens. These films use a 3/16″ wide, strip around the outer film edges to adhere to standard antiglare film only. DayVue and Triple A films are not affected. Elo screens can have several...nushield.com
Searching their site though I see some Phoenix Automotive PX6 protectors so maybe they have something already set to the right size.
I did the same thing for my Tacoma, but used a different product that was made for the fourth GEN vehicles with the big screen. If you’re interested in that, just DM me.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BF4SM3BL?tag=ihco-20
Had it on for several weeks and does the job. Thanks for the idea
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I have had on intermitant issue. The Air Bag light would come on in the dash. I could go several weeks without it, then it would be on at start for a few times and then it would be gone
The instructions say if the Air Bag light does come on, install the provided harness. It says it typically doesnt happen. Its a minor ocurrence for me, but I like to fix issues while they are still fresh, so I installed the harness
Their location of where to insert this harness is poor in the instructions and shows RHD (Aussie wheel on right). Essentially, you have to remove the glove box assembly. This video isnt in English but was helpful and made it quick and easy to remove the Glove Box Assembly
Matching up the connector wiring Diagram with the connector pinout, it is Connector FE4.
I then spliced the 12V wire from the harness into the Cig Lighter power which I verified is tied to ACC
I forgot to take a picture with the harness installed, put you remove FE4 and insert this harness in line and then route the 12V wire to ACC. Figure 2 in the instructions does show it pretty good. I just couldn't tell where it was at first and had to ask Vhedia for a more descriptive location.
It was much easier then I thought it would be. Using the video above, I did have the Glove Box assembly out in 10 minutes. The hardest part was unseating the connector and that took a bit of work.
The instructions say if the Air Bag light does come on, install the provided harness. It says it typically doesnt happen. Its a minor ocurrence for me, but I like to fix issues while they are still fresh, so I installed the harness
Their location of where to insert this harness is poor in the instructions and shows RHD (Aussie wheel on right). Essentially, you have to remove the glove box assembly. This video isnt in English but was helpful and made it quick and easy to remove the Glove Box Assembly
Matching up the connector wiring Diagram with the connector pinout, it is Connector FE4.
I then spliced the 12V wire from the harness into the Cig Lighter power which I verified is tied to ACC
I forgot to take a picture with the harness installed, put you remove FE4 and insert this harness in line and then route the 12V wire to ACC. Figure 2 in the instructions does show it pretty good. I just couldn't tell where it was at first and had to ask Vhedia for a more descriptive location.
It was much easier then I thought it would be. Using the video above, I did have the Glove Box assembly out in 10 minutes. The hardest part was unseating the connector and that took a bit of work.
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Took me a while, but figured out an issue that was bugging me. In Android Auto, Goggle maps always comes up in night mode no matter the time of day. Figured out going into the Android Auto App on my phone and changing it from Automatic to Day mode took care of it.
I also winterized the Camper today, so had an opportunity to really use the rear camera. The camera is the same, but the screen is better. You can tell the designers are from China as they start the caution with "Dear"
Note I have the anti glare matt screen protector on it which does remove some sharpness from the screen. The fact I havent washed the truck (dirty camera) also likely doesnt help the clarity
It worked well for me lining up my Hitch EZy hitch from my Kimberley Karavan to the truck. First an older picture showing the hitch set up and then using the camera from this morning
This is in a darkened Garage. Clarity is better outside. It was good enough for me to be able to line up perfectly using the camera
I also winterized the Camper today, so had an opportunity to really use the rear camera. The camera is the same, but the screen is better. You can tell the designers are from China as they start the caution with "Dear"
Note I have the anti glare matt screen protector on it which does remove some sharpness from the screen. The fact I havent washed the truck (dirty camera) also likely doesnt help the clarity
It worked well for me lining up my Hitch EZy hitch from my Kimberley Karavan to the truck. First an older picture showing the hitch set up and then using the camera from this morning
This is in a darkened Garage. Clarity is better outside. It was good enough for me to be able to line up perfectly using the camera
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An update that is partially redundant with my Profile thread. The Air Bag harness did not fix my Air Bag error light issue mentioned above. Took a bit to figure out as I typically drive by myself in the 200. Now for troubleeshooting I sit in the passenger seat.
Vhedia has been great with quick response considering the time change. We have been troubleshooting a minor issue the last few months and they have been very supportive. At least as well as they can be since the factory and design team is in China. They do get answers to my questions and they even had the factory send me out a new harness to help resolve the issue I had. I believe I got one of the first newer versions so it has been a learning experience for all of us.
It took me a while to see I had an issue since I normally ride alone. Wheen ever I had a passenger ride with me the air bag light would come on the dash. No issue without the passenger
We did find their instruction sheet was wrong on connecting two connectors. I had it connected correctly. I did figure out if I disconnected one connector, the issue would go away, but the passenger light would not come on either. That is why the sent me the harnesses thinking there was an issue there. Even with this issue, this unit has been a huge upgrade.
Turns out that wasn’t the issue so I made my own mini cable where I could connect/disconnect each of the 4 wires in the connection I had isolated the issue to. I found 1 wire if disconnected would remove the issue and everything else would work. Maybe the factory would have eventually found that, but I wanted to get this resolved. They always responded within 1 business day after I tried something and they were there for me even though I used my Electronic Engineering skills to isolate and eliminate the problem.
Now it all works as it should and I couldn’t be happier with this unit
Here is the connector from the install manual that was incorrect. It showed connecting a 4 pin to a 2 pin and I questioned that and they agreed that was incorrect and it should go 4-pin to 4-pin per the arrow
I also found by disconnecting the first wire in that 4-pin, my issue went away. Maybe this is an issue only with my unit, but posting here in case anyone else runs into the same problem. I would clip the wire far enough back that you can resplice it if need be. It is the purple wire in the #1 slot.
I had installed this mini harness which has different colors I made from the old harnesses from my 2019 unit. It is still in there while I drive around for a bit to make sure no issues and wait to hear what the factory has to say
Android Auto works awesome. It also has Carplay, but have no idea how that works. It has a lot more memory so I can load all the maps I want. It can use my phone as a hot spot to use the native android apps while driving. The OBD app works great. I had bever tried it on the old unit and heard they worked there as well. I can have multiple windows open on the screen. I can run a local map program (Magic Earth) for city navigation or switch to Android Auto for Google maps or Wazee. I can run those on the main unit using my phone as a hot spot as well. I can load and run any Android apps so that provides lots of choices. It is a big step from my 2019 unit and I no longer feel it is dated. I have stopped jonesing for the LX700h. Frankly, I think my head unit has more capabilities than the newer Toyotas and without subscriptions. It doesn’t have the ability to remote start or unlock, but I can customize a lot of features. The only thing I wish it had was better cameras and the 360 birds eye view. I believe the SW on the unit has that option if I add the right cameras.
I have had this unit for a while now and even when I had this issue I loved it. The LC200 was feeling dated and I was jonseing for an LX700h (300 series), but not anymore. Now that everything is resolved, I couldnt be happier.
Vhedia has been great with quick response considering the time change. We have been troubleshooting a minor issue the last few months and they have been very supportive. At least as well as they can be since the factory and design team is in China. They do get answers to my questions and they even had the factory send me out a new harness to help resolve the issue I had. I believe I got one of the first newer versions so it has been a learning experience for all of us.
It took me a while to see I had an issue since I normally ride alone. Wheen ever I had a passenger ride with me the air bag light would come on the dash. No issue without the passenger
We did find their instruction sheet was wrong on connecting two connectors. I had it connected correctly. I did figure out if I disconnected one connector, the issue would go away, but the passenger light would not come on either. That is why the sent me the harnesses thinking there was an issue there. Even with this issue, this unit has been a huge upgrade.
Turns out that wasn’t the issue so I made my own mini cable where I could connect/disconnect each of the 4 wires in the connection I had isolated the issue to. I found 1 wire if disconnected would remove the issue and everything else would work. Maybe the factory would have eventually found that, but I wanted to get this resolved. They always responded within 1 business day after I tried something and they were there for me even though I used my Electronic Engineering skills to isolate and eliminate the problem.
Now it all works as it should and I couldn’t be happier with this unit
Here is the connector from the install manual that was incorrect. It showed connecting a 4 pin to a 2 pin and I questioned that and they agreed that was incorrect and it should go 4-pin to 4-pin per the arrow
I also found by disconnecting the first wire in that 4-pin, my issue went away. Maybe this is an issue only with my unit, but posting here in case anyone else runs into the same problem. I would clip the wire far enough back that you can resplice it if need be. It is the purple wire in the #1 slot.
I had installed this mini harness which has different colors I made from the old harnesses from my 2019 unit. It is still in there while I drive around for a bit to make sure no issues and wait to hear what the factory has to say
Android Auto works awesome. It also has Carplay, but have no idea how that works. It has a lot more memory so I can load all the maps I want. It can use my phone as a hot spot to use the native android apps while driving. The OBD app works great. I had bever tried it on the old unit and heard they worked there as well. I can have multiple windows open on the screen. I can run a local map program (Magic Earth) for city navigation or switch to Android Auto for Google maps or Wazee. I can run those on the main unit using my phone as a hot spot as well. I can load and run any Android apps so that provides lots of choices. It is a big step from my 2019 unit and I no longer feel it is dated. I have stopped jonesing for the LX700h. Frankly, I think my head unit has more capabilities than the newer Toyotas and without subscriptions. It doesn’t have the ability to remote start or unlock, but I can customize a lot of features. The only thing I wish it had was better cameras and the 360 birds eye view. I believe the SW on the unit has that option if I add the right cameras.
I have had this unit for a while now and even when I had this issue I loved it. The LC200 was feeling dated and I was jonseing for an LX700h (300 series), but not anymore. Now that everything is resolved, I couldnt be happier.
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a Longer term use status after my first wheeling trip with it
Last year I had Gaia with thye older unit and I did not have full functionality due to some control items being off screen. Maybe that app version, maybe user error.
With this Unit Gaia worked perfectly. Quick to boot, quick to locate and all functions easily available
Before I posted you couldn't run Android Auto and other apps, that isn't correct. You can't split screen Android Auto with anything non Android Auto, but you can bring another app to the front. I switched to OBD program going over a MTN pass while Android Auto was running in the background. In all honesty, this is the same way Android Auto works in my 2024 Tacoma between Toyota Apps and Android Auto. You can't split screen anything there either.
I had zero issues this entire trip and really since I installed it. The only issue I have is with Chrome that I posted eralier. The factory said I could reinstall the firmware which would reset all my setting and that would fix it. The book marks dont work in Chrome, but it does work to type in a web address. Since Edge works perfectly fine as a Web Browser with bookmarks, I saw no need to reset it.
I did have the issue with the Passenger Airbag light, but was able to resolve that per my previous posts
OBD Fusion worked great going over the MTN passes
The above split screen was with Android Auto off
Very happy with this unit.
Looks like they have a new site for US based customers in US Dollars Head Unit Suitable for Toyota Landcruiser 200 Series 2007-2015 Sahara - Vhedia - https://vhedia.com/product/head-unit-suitable-for-toyota-landcruiser-200-series-2007-2015-sahara/
Last year I had Gaia with thye older unit and I did not have full functionality due to some control items being off screen. Maybe that app version, maybe user error.
With this Unit Gaia worked perfectly. Quick to boot, quick to locate and all functions easily available
Before I posted you couldn't run Android Auto and other apps, that isn't correct. You can't split screen Android Auto with anything non Android Auto, but you can bring another app to the front. I switched to OBD program going over a MTN pass while Android Auto was running in the background. In all honesty, this is the same way Android Auto works in my 2024 Tacoma between Toyota Apps and Android Auto. You can't split screen anything there either.
I had zero issues this entire trip and really since I installed it. The only issue I have is with Chrome that I posted eralier. The factory said I could reinstall the firmware which would reset all my setting and that would fix it. The book marks dont work in Chrome, but it does work to type in a web address. Since Edge works perfectly fine as a Web Browser with bookmarks, I saw no need to reset it.
I did have the issue with the Passenger Airbag light, but was able to resolve that per my previous posts
OBD Fusion worked great going over the MTN passes
The above split screen was with Android Auto off
Very happy with this unit.
Looks like they have a new site for US based customers in US Dollars Head Unit Suitable for Toyota Landcruiser 200 Series 2007-2015 Sahara - Vhedia - https://vhedia.com/product/head-unit-suitable-for-toyota-landcruiser-200-series-2007-2015-sahara/
I'd still like to see one of these units that retains the pollen filter control. 