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[quote author=concretejungle link=board=2;threadid=15368;start=msg147410#msg147410 date=1083251379]
turbo, be careful! :-X
He could have some bullydog or banks equipment on that puppy. I"ve seen guys pushing 800 hp and over 1000 ft-lb of torque with those diesels.
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Well, you are right, but, no mention of that in his sig line but sometimes that is the way the hustlers do it!!!! "Sure it's stock, now let's race for titles!" Seriously, if it is stock, no way in hell he can spank; I looked up 0-60 for the GMC and it is 8.8 seconds, my 0-60 is 6.6. I wont even worry about other ratings like quarter mile or top speed; there is no way the GMC can compete although its top speed is probably pretty close. However, the most important point is Junk's point and that is right that rarely would we want to worry about topend power or topend torque while wheeling. My point is simply that all the power and all the torque comes on so fast with the turbo that it is immensely helpful while wheeling anything other than the rocks and it still might help there but I have yet to handle that so I do not know. P.S. I'd be happy to safely race this GMC if its anywhere around me. Open Offer!
 
[quote author=turbocruiser link=board=2;threadid=15368;start=msg147406#msg147406 date=1083250960]
Your GMC would be embarrased, no way you can spank a turboed 80 with a 2500HD pickemup! That is a funny joke though, so good points for the comedy factor! PULEEEAAASE!
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And all this time I thought you were a pretty smart dude. :rolleyes: I've seen HD trucks with less tuning under the hood than you got pull 13 seconds in the quater mile. Until my hard drive crashed, i had a video of a F350 powerstroke with the stock turbo run a 11.39 (he did have a few other mods though) One big black strip of smoke all the way down the track. It was beautiful. But I digress. I'm sure your cruiser is faster than the average mom mobile and I'm darn sure that it faster than my cruiser. But I wouldn't put my money on you against "pickemup" with 1/2 the modifications that you have.
:beer:
Curran
 
[quote author=Curran link=board=2;threadid=15368;start=msg147429#msg147429 date=1083252968]
And all this time I thought you were a pretty smart dude. :rolleyes: I wouldn't put my money on you against "pickemup" with 1/2 the modifications that you have.
:beer:
Curran
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Well, first, thanks for the insult, that always helps. Second, at this point, since he started the statement that his is bigger than mine, etc.,etc.,. Let's all shutup and see what happens. My offer still stands - a safe race simply for grins and giggles - who honestly knows what happens - whatever happens, happens, and to be truthful, I'd be happy to lose to this truck - its a kickass truck in its own way. Still, not the point; I did not start any statements and what I stated referred to this truck as a stock truck, I went out of my way to write that. Anyway, posers will be posers, sounds like you are posing vicariously; its not your truck we are talking about, and its not heavily modified heavy duty pickemups we are talking about either so I do not get why you, or myself for that matter, have gotten suckered into this "what if" thing. I would be perfectly pleased to line up and wind it up with the GMC, whoever gets to the selected bar first orders his favorite drink, the other one buys it; no harm, no foul, lotta fun!!! Peace.
 
The "smart dude" comment was meant in jest. No harm intended. I’ll be sure to use the skin thickness gage next time I post. You should be happy that you at least maintained smart guy status -- albeit for a limited time. ;)
You two go race. I’ll by the keystone for whoever wins.
 
This how I feel about a turbo and why I'd rather get a S/C: Not knowing when the turbo kicks in for the LC, but for most vehicles that my friends have, the turbo kicks in at 3k rpm's. So for the LC it will only leave you with 2k rpm's to work with. And when you are over 3k rpm's, you are wasting so much gas. For installiation; this is not something you can do on your own. You are going to need a team. I think the turbo is a waste and its costly. Then you also have to deal with the intercooler. Without it, your not goingt to be getting much power from the Turbo. Its just a complicated system. But for the S/C, its always kicking in and it will give you that low end power that the LC needs to get moving. At 290 hp and 370 lbs of torque, you'll have plenty of power waiting for you at the pedal. Which I find very valuable and well worth it. Then when it comes to installation; it is a basic bolt-on. For $2850, i think its a hell of a deal. If I had the $$$ it would be on the LC without a question. My 2 cents.
 
Ohh crap, here we go again, more and more I'm seeing Junk's wisdom with wanting searches done prior to posts! This has been beaten beyond death. Many authoritative sources who know so much more than me about this, including several Slee staff, have addressed and settled these stereotypes.
 
Sammy, a turbo system wil give you more torque at a lower rpm. SC's don't really KICK in, they gradually increase as RPM goes up. The safari turbo is fairly small and will produce boost well under 2000rpm. Cars that boost 6-8lbs will gain little but not a lot from an intercooler. Some argue that they are unnecessary for low boost. You can search the forum, there are many S/C vs Turbo posts.
 
Next time you are in Georgia look me up ;).

Confirmed: bone stocker 3/4 ton GMC Duramax. It is my wife's DD so we will have to ask her before I go drag racing it hehe.

This thread is about advantages of a SC vs Turbo, etc so lets get back to it.

I would say the application would matter more than anything. Sounds like turbo has the right setup for what he enjoys...wheelers may differ depending on their terrain (Sand yes, muddy rocks no).

As I said, to each his own and every mod has value to the owner or it would never be offerred.
 
Although I prefer a turbo over a SC any day of the week (and twice on Sunday), I'll say one thing in favor of the superchargers.

If something goes disasterously wrong with the sc unit while driving, you can cut or remove the belt powering the blower and still make it home OK.

If you have a bust the oil line off of the turbo you'll be stuck pretty quick if you don't find a way to cap it.

Personally, I think a nice small snail running 8-10 lbs of boost would be optimal. Plus, with that low of a boost setting you can run no intercooler, or a relatively small one. Small intercooler= less turbo lag.
 
Aight I'm not too familiar with what a turbo system on a Cruiser. I'm just going with what I know. My friend has an Mits Evo and his kicks in at 3k. We are alwys screwing around on that thing. So thats what I was basing my info on... I guess there is a big difference then.
 
Yeah junk ::) but you still have to drive the hwy to go wheeling, and home again, and wheeling for most is only a small part of the cars actual use.

My 80 was dynoed with 221kw and 520nm @ the rear wheels [mine was a constant 4wd with a 2wd/4wd conversion] now a t/case awd vehicle should lose 30-40% in drive trail losses,a nd a normal 2wd vehicle aprox 25%.

Max torque was 2600rpm to 3600, and max kw was 4200 rpm, but the engine made full boost at 1400 rpm.

Now the difference I note between turbo and supercharger

The turbo pushes you back in the seat so to speak and keeps you there, every gear, the supercharger improves off the mark performance, but getting on the freeway on ramp, or overtaking is more like driving a standard 4.5 than driving the turbo version.
 
Where would one find a turbo manifold for a Cruiser anyway? It's not like they are a common item...

Custom?
 
Can you put a turbo on a supercharged 80? Or a s/c on a turboed 80?

Would that be like 400 hp?

Ed
 
We get the odd 2nd hand Safari kits popping up over here in Aus, and Robbie from Slee got a tube manufactured unit which could be copied from Ebay a while ago. The turbo also is much kinder on the engine, with an intercooler, and you ahve no parasitic losses with a turbo, where as a supercharger like the 4.5 TRD unit would be 40-50hp + to drive it above 4000 rpm.

2nd hand safari units here go for $3.5 -4k Aus
 
If I'm gonna build a Toy for street cruisin', I think it'll be a 4Skinner with a 2JZ twin turbo. You can get a whole damn low-mileage motor with harness and computer for $4-6K. I came close to jumping on a 95 with a bad 3.0L. There's gonna be a lot of those out there before too long.

I like the idea of a Safari-type turbo for my Cruiser, but it sure does not look anywhere near reasonably priced at this point.

I struggle with the supercharger. If one came along at the right price, maybe, but isn't the TRD/Kazuma s/c a centrifugal? It would need to spool up worse than a small turbo. If it was a Roots-type I could see it would be better for wheeling.
 
[quote author=Doc link=board=2;threadid=15368;start=msg147739#msg147739 date=1083281064]
Where would one find a turbo manifold for a Cruiser anyway? It's not like they are a common item...

Custom?
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when I was calling around, I found that there is a CAST unit made...but I couldn't get out of anyone on the source mfg. I'm still trying though ;)

K
 
I am Soooo glad I got my turbo when I did :D

Yomama
 
Say that I purchase a supercharger for the 80. Does anyone sell a intercooler for the setup? I'm really concerning on putting a Supercharger on the Land Cruiser. So if I can get an intercooler as well that will be a s*** load of more power. Thanks,

- Sammy
 
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