Transmission Question

[PRFISHBAR]

Hey all,
My 1989 62 doesn’t like to be in second gear. Sometimes it takes a little to long to shift into it, sometimes it’s smooth. Most times it shifts right into third gear shortly after and if I need to accelerate it will downshift right into first gear before going to second.
This has been happening for the better part of a year. I keep waiting for the transmission to complete fail but it just keeps going.
I also noticed that overdrive will kick in only on the highway. Is this normal?

Is there anything I can adjust or do to help?
Thanks

 

[Malleus]

Sounds like the governor isn't, well, "governing". Unfortunately, this is about the only part on the A440F transmission that is NLA. At least to my knowledge.

You could try Dave Stedman at Japan4x4. Here are the parts for the governor (you won't likely need the body, which is good, because it's long gone):

The valves, springs, (3) front O-rings and the gasket are what you'd need to rebuild it.

 

[Malleus]

If it was me, I'd spend the money on a manual swap. The worst mistake I ever made buying and selling Land Cruisers was selling my 60 for a 62; that transmission is worthless, IMHO.

 

[PRFISHBAR]

Sounds like the governor isn't, well, "governing". Unfortunately, this is about the only part on the A440F transmission that is NLA. At least to my knowledge.

You could try Dave Stedman at Japan4x4. Here are the parts for the governor (you won't likely need the body, which is good, because it's long gone):
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The valves, springs, (3) front O-rings and the gasket are what you'd need to rebuild it.

Thanks for the info. Guess I’m SOL.

 

[Malleus]

I'd get a second opinion, before I tossed it. My view from here is pretty hazy.

@cruisermatt knows these trucks as well as anyone, and he's much closer to you than I am.

 

[tmxmotorsports]

Check the transmission cable adjustment and make sure it moves freely no snags

 

[Lead Head]

It sounds like your TV cable may be getting stuck, as mentioned. There's a few tricks you can do that allegedly "back flush" the governor. Look up "FJ62 Party Trick"

 

[PRFISHBAR]

It sounds like your TV cable may be getting stuck, as mentioned. There's a few tricks you can do that allegedly "back flush" the governor. Look up "FJ62 Party Trick"

I’ll look into it. Thanks!

 

[PRFISHBAR]

It sounds like your TV cable may be getting stuck, as mentioned. There's a few tricks you can do that allegedly "back flush" the governor. Look up "FJ62 Party Trick"

So I found info on The Rodney Flush, is that what you meant by “back flush”?
Can’t find anything on the Party Trick

 

[PRFISHBAR]

Ok….
Just found what The Party Trick is and there’s no way in hell I’m trying that!!
I’ll try the Rodney Flush.

 

[tmxmotorsports]

Ok….
Just found what The Party Trick is and there’s no way in hell I’m trying that!!
I’ll try the Rodney Flush.

Check the cable first. Really nothing wrong with doing the flush how many miles are on it does the transmission fluid smell burnt? Check the cable if its fine then move on to the flush but also check the filter inside the transmission it metal clean it . I've done 5he party trick on a ford bronco years ago didn't change anything transmission guy told me how to do it craziness.

 

[RevISK]

Be very wary of the Rodney Flush or Party Trick. If you search A440f issues you will inevitably find a thread of mine where I tried both.

Adjust the cable. Lube the cable. Start collecting parts for a swap. It is the best thing you can do for a FJ62. That sh!tbox of a transmission is a ticking time bomb.

 

[PRFISHBAR]

Be very wary of the Rodney Flush or Party Trick. If you search A440f issues you will inevitably find a thread of mine where I tried both.

Adjust the cable. Lube the cable. Start collecting parts for a swap. It is the best thing you can do for a FJ62. That sh!tbox of a transmission is a ticking time bomb.

I’d love to do a manual swap but man is it pricey!!

 

[RevISK]

I’d love to do a manual swap but man is it pricey!!

As you will find, the best and most cost effective way to go about it is to find a post ‘85 FJ60 parts rig and do everything yourself.

Wait for a 25% off parts sale (Serra does it often) for the H55f and any other available OEM parts.

I did it (with a bunch of help) so I’m sure you can too. I’m here to lend whatever help I can.

 

[RevISK]

Also, you are at least in the same state as @cruisermatt and he has some necessary goodies for the swap all the way up to can do it for you.

 

[PRFISHBAR]

As you will find, the best and most cost effective way to go about it is to find a post ‘85 FJ60 parts rig and do everything yourself.

Wait for a 25% off parts sale (Serra does it often) for the H55f and any other available OEM parts.

I did it (with a bunch of help) so I’m sure you can too. I’m here to lend whatever help I can.

I appreciate the info and confidence but my wrenching ability is extremely limited and a transmission swap would be way over my pay grade. I’d do better at budgeting for it and handing it over to cruisermatt.

 

[tmxmotorsports]

I appreciate the info and confidence but my wrenching ability is extremely limited and a transmission swap would be way over my pay grade. I’d do better at budgeting for it and handing it over to cruisermatt.

Could ask @cruisermatt if they have any 62 good used transmissions laying around. Not sure how much that would cost ya gotta be less expensive to get ya going.

 

[Lead Head]

Hey all,
My 1989 62 doesn’t like to be in second gear. Sometimes it takes a little to long to shift into it, sometimes it’s smooth. Most times it shifts right into third gear shortly after and if I need to accelerate it will downshift right into first gear before going to second.
This has been happening for the better part of a year. I keep waiting for the transmission to complete fail but it just keeps going.
I also noticed that overdrive will kick in only on the highway. Is this normal?

Is there anything I can adjust or do to help?
Thanks

One more thing: Are you sure you're counting the gears right? These transmissions have a very "conservative' shift schedule, and basically sit in 4th gear(OD) almost all the time. The 1-2 shift can be difficult to pick out if it occurs at low throttle and low RPM.

The A440Fs in these trucks almost immediately shifts into 2nd gear at part throttle. The 1-2 shift will occur at just 8 MPH from 0-30% throttle. The maximum 2>1 downshift speed is 20 MPH (meaning, it will not auto-downshift into 1st anything over 20), and the minimum 2-3 up-shift speed is about 20 MPH. This basically means it's almost impossible to get a 3>1 downshift, because any vehicle speed high enough for 3rd gear to engage should be too high for 1st gear.

Then, 4th (OD) minimum shift speed is about 28 MPH up to 25% throttle. So if you're just mildly accelerating, the truck will be in 4th (OD) by 28. If you give it half (or more) throttle, those shift speeds will be higher.

At 53 MPH, the torque converter locks, which in this transmission feels like an additional shift. Are you sure this isn't what you're feeling when you say "OD kicks in at highway speeds"?

But as I mentioned before, some of these symptoms you are saying could definitely because by a TV cable that's sticking.

 

[89BIGBLUE]

Yes, check cable.
If defective in any way, replacement will help/fix.

They can appear to look good, but not function.

Took me months and lots of adjustments to realize/observe it was faulty.
New cable made it run right again!