Trail Tailor LX470 Hidden Winch Mount (1 Viewer)

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Understood, but I do have to "poke" a hole though the OEM bumper for the rope to pass through the fairlead, don't I?

If I'm going to create a situation where the OEM bumper is going to tear, I may as well go down the Dissent/Kavik/TJM route.

I'm out of town but will try to do some measuring on my 05 when I'm back to see if I believe the bumper cover would be compromised.
 
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I did nothing after the install. I still have AHC and it did not move my pressures outside of the acceptable range according to the FSM. I'm using the standard wire rope from an XD9000i, it provides an extra 25 feet over the cable the XD9000 comes with (125ft vs. 100ft).

The mount weighs about 35 pounds and the winch is about 75 pounds with the standard cable so you'll save a couple pounds there. If you needed to you could adjust your front suspension if you saw a considerable drop.
Sweet, thank you for the input. I still have the AHC also so your response helped even more. Thanks again
 
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@Espi SERE and @ChuckB
I looked at my 05 and I believe the fairlead would come to this position, just below or right at the rounded edge of the bumper behind the license plate. the fairlead I used is the same width as a license plate.

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The winch mount comes with two brackets for the two center lower bumper cover mounts. The mounts are slightly further rearward from the brackets that come on the mount. You would have to either put new holes in the bumper cover mounting plastic, this would be very easy to do as illustrated below or have @TRAIL TAILOR weld the brackets back about an inch on the plate.

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The bumper reinforcement on my 2005 is aluminum other then that it mounts the same as the steel reinforcement on my 1998. You'll have to cut out the center of the reinforcement and bolt the two outer pieces back on the frame like I did with the steel reinforcement on my 98. The outer brackets for the bumper cover left and right mounts are part of the aluminum reinforcement so they will transfer over wit the bumper ends.

I hope this helps you out. let me know if you have additional questions.
 
Thank you for the information, mine is an 03. I am hoping that I will have little to no problems installing the kit I received today. This is the front of my rig
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@Espi SERE and @ChuckB
I looked at my 05 and I believe the fairlead would come to this position, just below or right at the rounded edge of the bumper behind the license plate. the fairlead I used is the same width as a license plate.

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The winch mount comes with two brackets for the two center lower bumper cover mounts. The mounts are slightly further rearward from the brackets that come on the mount. You would have to either put new holes in the bumper cover mounting plastic, this would be very easy to do as illustrated below or have @TRAIL TAILOR weld the brackets back about an inch on the plate.

View attachment 1965418

The bumper reinforcement on my 2005 is aluminum other then that it mounts the same as the steel reinforcement on my 1998. You'll have to cut out the center of the reinforcement and bolt the two outer pieces back on the frame like I did with the steel reinforcement on my 98. The outer brackets for the bumper cover left and right mounts are part of the aluminum reinforcement so they will transfer over wit the bumper ends.

I hope this helps you out. let me know if you have additional questions.
 
How do you feel this would hold up in a pull with some side angle involved? I know there was another hidden winch mount plate (TJM maybe?) that was pretty stout for a straight line pull but got a pretty consistent no-confidence vote for anything else. TT has been great to me with the one order I've had from him (recovery mounts). I've got a winch ready to go but no place to mount it and a real bumper would push my budget.
 
How do you feel this would hold up in a pull with some side angle involved? I know there was another hidden winch mount plate (TJM maybe?) that was pretty stout for a straight line pull but got a pretty consistent no-confidence vote for anything else. TT has been great to me with the one order I've had from him (recovery mounts). I've got a winch ready to go but no place to mount it and a real bumper would push my budget.
The mount is pretty damn solid, have not had to use it in that type of situation just yet. But agreed for straight line pull, it pulled effortlessly. I'll update if I ever have to use it at any awkward angles
 
I had no idea AC lines were different. My '98 LC has the original prototype from Jason, and I only have front AC (w/ rear heat). Do later LC's have this lower line or is it really just on LX's?

I'm not familiar with all the different options available between the LC and LX. If someone knows I like to be educated. From what I've been able to figure out, if you don't have the rear A/C (where there is an A/C evaporator in the back) the condenser is smaller and the high pressure line is different. I'd suspect if rear A/C was an option on the LC in 98 the A/C line would be the same.
I have an 05 LX in addition to the 98 and the line is slightly different. It doesn't seem to drop below the cross member as much.

My two cents :)
Mike
 
I'm not familiar with all the different options available between the LC and LX. If someone knows I like to be educated. From what I've been able to figure out, if you don't have the rear A/C (where there is an A/C evaporator in the back) the condenser is smaller and the high pressure line is different. I'd suspect if rear A/C was an option on the LC in 98 the A/C line would be the same.
I have an 05 LX in addition to the 98 and the line is slightly different. It doesn't seem to drop below the cross member as much.

My two cents :)
Mike
Interesting, afaik the LC only had a rear heat and no rear AC in 98/99, which disappeared and switched standard rear AC in 2000+. LX had rear AC all years, I think?

EDIT: and to keep it on topic, I can't recommend the @TRAIL TAILOR hidden winch mount enough.
 
Can you post a pic of how it mounts underneath the frame rails?
 
You can kinda see the are in question in the first pic on his site (zoom in just to the right of the winch, and see where I don't have a line). My mounting "feet" are symmetric, and look just like your passenger side mount. Otherwise it mounts up just the same, but the LX driver side is notched for that line, and it looks like Jason built in a gusset under that foot to compensate.
 

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