Flushing out rear end and replacing rear brakes, I find this thrust washer in the diff housing. I've read every thread I could find, it goes behind the driver's side spider gear, easiest way is to rotate it until you can drop it in from the top, behind the spider? I'm just not seeing how that's possible, I see a C ring facing in but solid shaft behind it? What am I doing wrong?
Thrust washer help.
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Is your part #19 in this pic?
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Is your part #19 in this pic?
FJ60, FJ62, 70 Series, FJ80 Locking Differential, 1958-2006 Land Cruiser, Front and Rear - Specter Off-Road
Toyota Land Cruiser parts since 1983. From the oldest FJ25 and to the newest Land Cruiser, Non USA or domestic 40 Series, 60 Series 80 Series or 100 Series, SOR has the largest selection of top quality new and used OEM and aftermarket Land Cruiser parts in stock in the world. Specializing in...
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Sorry, I always forget that part since I'm in the FJ40 sub. It's a 1978, its all stock, rear differential. I've looked at countless threads and I keep reading to slide it in the top and can feel its way in. I've looked at the SOR manual, I have 2 Toyota repair manuals, I've googled it, I just can't mentally picture how to do it. If there was a YouTube video or pictures of someone doing it that would be a life saver! Thank you for your help!When asking for help year, model market helps.
Is your part #19 in this pic?
FJ60, FJ62, 70 Series, FJ80 Locking Differential, 1958-2006 Land Cruiser, Front and Rear - Specter Off-Road
Toyota Land Cruiser parts since 1983. From the oldest FJ25 and to the newest Land Cruiser, Non USA or domestic 40 Series, 60 Series 80 Series or 100 Series, SOR has the largest selection of top quality new and used OEM and aftermarket Land Cruiser parts in stock in the world. Specializing in...
Maybe something in the free download manuals
Land Cruiser Factory Service Manuals (FSMs)
Factory service manuals (FSMs) for your Toyota Land Cruiser ! From the 1950s to the present!
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Ummm. I think we should back up to how that got loose in the 1st place. Unless you’ve removed the center pin and an axle shaft to work on the brakes, that thrust washer shouldn’t be able to fall out.
To reinstall it, it can be a bear. With the center pin out, you have to essentially “roll” both the lower and upper thrust washer into place at the same time. It usually takes multiple attempts and you want to be careful you don’t gall it. Once they are both in, you’ll probably have to adjust/wiggle them around a bit in order to get the center pin back into place.
To reinstall it, it can be a bear. With the center pin out, you have to essentially “roll” both the lower and upper thrust washer into place at the same time. It usually takes multiple attempts and you want to be careful you don’t gall it. Once they are both in, you’ll probably have to adjust/wiggle them around a bit in order to get the center pin back into place.
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Ok, so I do have to remove the center pin? Thats what I was thinking, I couldn't picture how to get it past a solid pin? It goes between the housing on the gear with the pin through it? The SOR drawing is confusing because its from the side.
I believe you will, yes.
I’m still curious, how it came loose.
Is it missing from behind one of the spider side gears facing the axle shafts? Or is it missing from one of the center pin spiders?
I’m still curious, how it came loose.
Is it missing from behind one of the spider side gears facing the axle shafts? Or is it missing from one of the center pin spiders?
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It was missing from the top one, pulled the pin and it looks pretty raggedy. I'm assuming it had just enough play or was loose to slide out? But thank you very much for responding to me! I'm always grateful for any guidance!
Well it’s a mystery to me. It should be impossible for that thrust washer to come out with the pin installed.
I agree tho, the wear on the center pin is pretty excessive. I’d be looking for a replacement for that
Don’t know you’re history with the truck but I’d be scratching my head and wondering if the PO left it on the bottom of the diff after not being able to successfully reinstall it
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That's entirely possible, I got a fairly good deal on it, it was a resto that the dude gave up on halfway through. It ran before I started tearing down but didn't drive it far enough to lock up the rear end, just around the block and then towed to my storage shop. Entirely possible its been there.
Cruiser outfitters sells the pin and washers
My PO found an axle c clip laying in the bottom of the differential when he opened it up at 60,000 miles. He swore that the yellow paper gasket was OEM when he opened it - implying that the c clip had never been installed at the factory. Maybe your wear is from the thrust washer laying in the bottom the hole time. Just a thought. Good luck.
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It's on order now!
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It's on order now
Yeah totally, I'm just happy I found it! Its all back together now!
That's impossible. If the C clip is missing the axle will slide out of the housing.
That is exactly what he said - no one ever pushed the rig or that axle would have walked out. I am the 7th owner, he was # 6. He got it in 1980 with 60,000 miles on the clock. I bought it from him in 82 with 62,000.
You have a side gear for each axle and the spider gears. Before you start punching out the shaft, make sure there are washers under the spiders already. There is NO way that washer can work itself out from under the spider without removing the shaft first. Check for up and down movement of the spider gear on the shaft, if no play, washers are in place. Look for wear on the loose washer you found, if no wear, it was probably dropped in during assembly and wasn't noticed.
The washer you are holding is number 19 in the pic. Number 16 is flat and goes behind side gears that engage axle, that washer goes behind the top or bottom spider gear. My guess is a PO had removed axles and dropped washer when reinstalling center pin.