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Another good one from Kai hot off the press...

 
Another good one from Kai hot off the press...



I thought it was interesting that about 20% of articulation on a 2nd gen Tundra comes from frame flex in the C shaped frame rails. Other Toyota trucks with boxed frames don't flex nearly as much. Also interesting how the 3rd gen Tundra front shocks are mounted differently- swapped with the 2nd gen sway bar mount and the impact that has on motion ratio. And the impact of coils Vs leaf springs on the rear.


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"The 200 Series Land Cruiser equivalent of the Jeep Wave"

Had a built 80 series with a custom CRUZR plate behind me for a couple miles this morning. No other cars around. He passed me and I glanced over to give a thumbs up as he past, but he was looking dead ahead. I ended up passing him a moment later and then he pulled up next to me at a red light. I looked over to give "the nod"... dude looking dead ahead. Will not look over. I'm a bit speechless. I can hear his internal monologue:

"Do not look over."
"200 series are not real Land Cruisers. Do not look at him."
"That guy does NOT have a solid front axle. We must not acknowledge that truck. It is not real. It is not a real Land Cruiser. Do not look. Do not look. Do not look." On the green he drove off and turned into a parking lot up ahead. That felt particularly rude to be honest.


A couple months ago my neighbor's son was visiting and said to me:
"Hey man- how's it goin? I've got a real Land Cruiser at my place"
"Oh nice- what year?" I ask...
"It's an 89." He says.
"Oh nice! I love the 60 and 62 series." I say.
"Yeah Land Cruisers are great. What kind of car is yours?" He asks.
"Um it's a Land Cruiser from '08." I say...
"No, I mean, you've obviously rebadged it to be funny, what kind of car is it?" He asks, believing that I have spent a good amount of money building up a Highlander or a Dodge Caravan and put a fake Land Cruiser badge on it.

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"The 200 Series Land Cruiser equivalent of the Jeep Wave"

Had a built 80 series with a custom CRUZR plate behind me for a couple miles this morning. No other cars around. He passed me and I glanced over to give a thumbs up as he past, but he was looking dead ahead. I ended up passing him a moment later and then he pulled up next to me at a red light. I looked over to give "the nod"... dude looking dead ahead. Will not look over. I'm a bit speechless. I can hear his internal monologue:

"Do not look over."
"200 series are not real Land Cruisers. Do not look at him."
"That guy does NOT have a solid front axle. We must not acknowledge that truck. It is not real. It is not a real Land Cruiser. Do not look. Do not look. Do not look." On the green he drove off and turned into a parking lot up ahead. That felt particularly rude to be honest.


A couple months ago my neighbor's son was visiting and said to me:
"Hey man- how's it goin? I've got a real Land Cruiser at my place"
"Oh nice- what year?" I ask...
"It's an 89." He says.
"Oh nice! I love the 60 and 62 series." I say.
"Yeah Land Cruisers are great. What kind of car is yours?" He asks.
"Um it's a Land Cruiser from '08." I say...
"No, I mean, you've obviously rebadged it to be funny, what kind of car is it?" He asks, believing that I have spent a good amount of money building up a Highlander or a Dodge Caravan and put a fake Land Cruiser badge on it.

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The new land cruiser is kind of growing on me...

I think it looks good (round headlight version). I just wish they hadn't castrated it with a hybrid power train. I'd be seriously interested if it had the turbo inline 4 and a manual transmission. It's the same platform as the 24 Tacoma so clearly it's possible. Maybe future years will have that option? I think it's still too expensive though. Cut 15k and give me a base model like they did with the Bronco and let me and the aftermarket do the rest.
 
I'd be down for the new one as a DD (business owned)...that said, I'd need to make sure it has the space that I use on a regular basis. Back in the day, I had a 2003 GMC Yukon that I loved and owned for over 10 years. When it needed some major repairs, I decided to go ahead and get rid of it and traded for my '13 Explorer Sport. When I went car shopping, I took one of my large coolers that I use for work and test fit it in the rear. My main "must have" at the time was that I could fit 2 coolers side by side in the rear cargo area without having to touch the center seats at their full rear setting. This was about the only car at the time that I could find that would fit the bill at a reasonable price. New Yukons at the time were going for $60k+ and I found the Explorer and the top tier Sport version with 23k on it for $40k...new ones were $52k. I still have it 9+ years later and have 120k on it and overall not many real issues. That said, I think I'm due for the timing chain and water pump soon, which is about a $3k service. Mine has the earlier Ecoboost 3.5 twin turbo that uses a single 9' timing chain...the re-design a couple years later for the same motor split into 2 chains to fix the chain stretch issue that mine will have at some point. I don't have any CEL's, but do hear a bit of chain rattle at startup and evidence of dried up coolant drips on the belly pan when changing the oil, coming from the water pump (timing chain driven).

I was 95% sold on a 2017 LC 200 that I had a check in hand for last month (asking $56k), but was disappointed in the presentation and what looked like poor care for a truck that had 75K on it and didn't start it's service life until 2018 (sat on the lot for 14 months new). Between the condition of that vehicle as presented and my time to really play with all of the seat motions and space configurations, I realized that I'd be loosing a LOT of usable cargo space that I still need for my regular daily use. Granted, I have a plywood platform that I made to cover the folded down center captain's chairs, but it gives me enough flat room to fit 4 of those large 135 quart coolers as a space reference and I can remove it quickly to get 4 people in there...the 200 wouldn't have come close to this cargo space since the rear seats only fold forward and not flat like the Explorer. I know that the 2 rigs are not apples to apples as far as what they can do on or off road, but being a work-owned vehicle, it needs to do what work demands at this time. My Explorer is all wheel drive (actually better in snow than the Yukon), has a killer sound system, factory remote start, remote lift gate, and 420+ HP, so it's not like I'm driving around all day in a box truck.

So, we'll see when I can actually get my hands on a new LC to check the ergonomics, but the video has me 75+% sold at this point. Also, I've learned to never buy the first model year of anything with a total redesign, so I'd be looking at 2025 models I guess. A $3k timing chain doesn't sound so bad either if it gets me another 3-5 years in the Explorer, especially when the business is footing the bill. Plus my employees will be happy as this extra $50k that I didn't spend on the 200 will go towards additional holiday bonuses that I'm giving this week for the tax benefits and employee appreciation. My 16 regular mostly full and a few part time staff will be getting a 10% annual salary bump for the holidays...Also set up a 401k to start in January from the Simple IRA that we had so we can get more $$ in tax deferred retirement savings, hoping to give everyone a 5% raise plus up to 3.5% additional match if they choose to participate.🔥
 
No reserve LS400, 66k miles. What do you think this goes for?

 
No reserve LS400, 66k miles. What do you think this goes for?

I sure miss mine. Same color too. Absolutely outstanding car and that traction control saved my ass in a 2am rainstorm driving I-5 Seattle to Portland on very little sleep. Passing a semi truck around a bend, I hit a steel joint in the pavement and the rear slid waaay out and the LS started hydroplaning sideways. As I looked head on at the semi truck wheels out the windshield, I looked down at the speedometer - it read 90mph- I accepted that was the end of me right as the car made a very gentle "Beep, beep, beep" sound and straightened itself out completely. I thanked the good Lord and the Lexus engineers that night.

Edit: Still have an old pic... circa 2007

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No reserve LS400, 66k miles. What do you think this goes for?


When I bought my '91 a few years ago, I put about $4500 into her right away. Timing belt, fluids, other stuff while they were in there. Complete baseline. Should have done the shocks, but she rides fine still. Service records back to new. 120K miles.

The lack of history on this BaT one is a serious downer. Something that would keep me away. Condition appears to be otherwise good, though.
I also have a distrust of cars that were sold, Titled or otherwise spent time in NJ. Odo rollbacks are a way of life there.

Gonna guess $15K because of the miles shown. New owner should expect to put some money into it.


Pic from when I bought her.
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I sure miss mine. Same color too. Absolutely outstanding car and that traction control saved my ass in a 2am rainstorm driving I-5 Seattle to Portland on very little sleep. Passing a semi truck around a bend, I hit a steel joint in the pavement and the rear slid waaay out and the LS started hydroplaning sideways. As I looked head on at the semi truck wheels out the windshield, I looked down at the speedometer - it read 90mph- I accepted that was the end of me right as the car made a very gentle "Beep, beep, beep" sound and straightened itself out completely. I thanked the good Lord and the Lexus engineers that night.

Edit: Still have an old pic... circa 2007

Nice one.
I've got a fault in my traction control. I get one bite at the apple and then it won't work again until a cycle of the key to clear it. Common problem.
It's a sunny day car, so zero interest in chasing it down.
 
Nice one.
I've got a fault in my traction control. I get one bite at the apple and then it won't work again until a cycle of the key to clear it. Common problem.
It's a sunny day car, so zero interest in chasing it down.
Only issue I had was dash would turn off completely at times. I ended up pulling out the electrolytic capacitors on the instrument panel circuit board and soldered in some fresh ones. That did the trick.
 
No reserve LS400, 66k miles. What do you think this goes for?


Hammered at $11750.

That's less than I have into mine, but I'm not needing a timing belt service. :)
 
Yeah, kinda bummed. I had my brother convinced to get it with a 12k price limit but he got busy at work today and didn't enter a bid.
 
Yeah, kinda bummed. I had my brother convinced to get it with a 12k price limit but he got busy at work today and didn't enter a bid.

It's been relisted. Under strange circumstances, IMO.

 
It's been relisted. Under strange circumstances, IMO.

Auction ends this afternoon...

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Also new Moab vid from the Aussies...

 

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