Build The Monkey is Back

[knuckle47]

This problem cost me over a week in paint drying time when I repainted my steering wheel 2 weeks ago. Those 3 little plastic horn button covers took longer to harden than the rim of the wheel for any number of reasons. Then when trying to get the perfect gloss, I was trying to clear off the paint with acetone, rippled the plastic and spent 2 days sanding the plastic back to smooth… I don’t count things 3, 5, or more times or have to resolve things musically to a finished sound…but visually it can make me stay up for 2 -3 days working on it.

Same with stitching that leather wrap. If you knew how many times I pulled those threads out….hahaha

 

[FloridaLife]

Here's my 4wd track (AKA my 'back yard') after a day of rain. Life in the swamps.....

This is the only place I've ever been where they close schools for rain.

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Are you in a flood zone and/or have to have flood insurance?

Hey, when we first moved here 6 years ago the mosquitos would run you out of the yard and back into the house. Couldn't enjoy the pool in the nice warm evenings. I bought 2 DynaTraps on Amazon, put one at each back corner of the house and plugged them in, and NO more mosquitoes! They are amazing! Haven't gotten a mosquito bite in years now. And the boys spend a LOT of time in the back yard, including at night with their 10" telescope, and they aren't getting bitten either. If you are interested let me know and I'll look in my purchase history and get you a link. You can do an Amazon search for DynaTrap Outdoor Mosquito & Flying Insect killer. You can buy them for different size yards, like you can buy one made for a 1 acre yard, but instead I bought 2 of the 1/2 acre ones and put one on each back corner of the house. I figured instead of pulling all of them across the yard to 1 location, I'd split them and pull them away from the center of the yard & pool.

 

[FloridaLife]

I THINK you will be ok! at least I am rooting for you to be

"Rooting for you"... Fun / funny fact that I learned the hard way when I said while in Australia, the term "rooting" that we use here in the US means having sex in Australia. While there, the people I was with were watching a cricket game and asked what I thought about it, and I said it seemed very calm and quiet, and that in the US if we are at a football or baseball game we are yelling and cheering and rooting for them in the stands / seating. Some old ladies looked at me in shock and disgust. Once it was explained to me, I said "Oh no, that goes on under the bleachers or in your car or truck." They didn't find that as funny as I did.

 

[Kevo1288]

"Rooting for you"... Fun / funny fact that I learned the hard way when I said while in Australia, the term "rooting" that we use here in the US means having sex in Australia. While there, the people I was with were watching a cricket game and asked what I thought about it, and I said it seemed very calm and quiet, and that in the US if we are at a football or baseball game we are yelling and cheering and rooting for them in the stands / seating. Some old ladies looked at me in shock and disgust. Once it was explained to me, I said "Oh no, that goes on under the bleachers or in your car or truck." They didn't find that as funny as I did.

I am absolutely going to be mindful of that if I ever make it to the land down under!

 

[Chamba]

I am absolutely going to be mindful of that if I ever make it to the land down under!

Yup, in Australia you barrack for a team and you never root a sheila unless they barrack for the same team.

Having said that, Australians watch enough American TV to know what you mean. Add to that, Australia has had astronomically high immigration for well over a decade. So much of that uniquely Australian culture is disappearing.

 

[FloridaLife]

Yup, in Australia you barrack for a team and you never root a sheila unless they barrack for the same team.

Having said that, Australians watch enough American TV to know what you mean. Add to that, Australia has had astronomically high immigration for well over a decade. So much of that uniquely Australian culture is disappearing.

Well, that was 38 years ago, so I bet things (including TV viewing) has changed a LOT since then.

 

[Living in the Past]

Josh @Chamba being our US Australian connection for 40 knowledge of that market. The person helping me collect the parts from the shipment I just received if I wanted anything off of this that was going to be scraped.

Took the back axle based on the front axle figured it a 8/80 and later axle. I had an earlier full floater in the past I sold mainly because of the monster drum brake parts which would hard to source in the US.

Now that my parts are here I noticed drums were different than the other axles I brought over. Figure someone managed to use early brake parts. After looking a little further realized the backing plate has eight mounting studs not four and two wheel cylinders not one. @Chamba do know anything about these early FJ40 full floaters?

 

[cruisermatt]

Josh @Chamba being our US Australian connection for 40 knowledge of that market. The person helping me collect the parts from the shipment I just received if I wanted anything off of this that was going to be scraped.
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Took the back axle based on the front axle figured it a 8/80 and later axle. I had an earlier full floater in the past I sold mainly because of the monster drum brake parts which would hard to source in the US.
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Now that my parts are here I noticed drums were different than the other axles I brought over. Figure someone managed to use early brake parts. After looking a little further realized the backing plate has eight mounting studs not four and two wheel cylinders not one. @Chamba do know anything about these early FJ40 full floaters?

That’s the 75-80 full floater with the larger, manual adjusting, brakes.

 

[FloridaLife]

Josh @Chamba being our US Australian connection for 40 knowledge of that market. The person helping me collect the parts from the shipment I just received if I wanted anything off of this that was going to be scraped.
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Took the back axle based on the front axle figured it a 8/80 and later axle. I had an earlier full floater in the past I sold mainly because of the monster drum brake parts which would hard to source in the US.
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Now that my parts are here I noticed drums were different than the other axles I brought over. Figure someone managed to use early brake parts. After looking a little further realized the backing plate has eight mounting studs not four and two wheel cylinders not one. @Chamba do know anything about these early FJ40 full floaters?

@Living in the Past and @MIKKELSEN

Hey John, that first photo... did Tim send you that photo showing what my 40 looked like when he started working on it?

 

[Living in the Past]

That’s the 75-80 full floater with the larger, manual adjusting, brakes.

FJ40 drums are listed 43501-60010 3/69-9/75 then 9/75-7/80 (start of FF) with same part number. FF on the truck is 43512-60020.
Right side rear backing plate on FJ40 9/75-7/80 with a FF is 47043-60021. Right side rear backing plate on FJ45 with FF 9/75-8/76 is 47043-60030. 8/76-7/80 is 47043-60040.

Probably easier check all these parts on a computer than on my cell phone. Different backing plates on the 40 and 45 and no different part number for the FJ40 drum for a FF I going to have to investigate and do some comparison. But it pointing to the FJ40 rear FF is not the as the common FJ45/HJ45. This one has no tabs for the swaybar. Also the picture I posted showed the heavy finned drum up front and smaller drums on the back. Haven't compared any BJ4X or FJ43 numbers.

Will do some comparing on wheel brake cylinders. More work because there are four different parts number per axle. Front/back/left/right.

 

[Chamba]

The FF rear in the 40/42 and it seems 43 do not have the sway bar. My47, however, did.

I only had a few friends with older 40s in Australia. One was a showroom resto, but the other was a 74 which had been on his station since new, so he was attached to it. The 75 had a 12HT/H55. He swapped in axles from an 82 or 83 47 he'd bought from a wreckers to get the discs and rear axle hand brake.

 

[Living in the Past]

I know the HJ47 in Australia didn't have disc brakes until 10/82 (83 model). Long wheel base 40 series did not hand brakes on the rear axle. Only place I know of hand brakes on a long wheel base is on incomplete built vehicles in parts of Africa. A member in Africa pointed those out to me.

8/80 axles were standardized it's the 9/75-7/80 in question here. Like the later axles the long wheel all had swaybar tabs. Short wheel base did not. Seen posting with or with not on mid wheel base 40 series. But other than a very few ersly FJ43s Toyota did not import 43 to Australia.


Thought all pre of 8/80 40 series full floating rear were the same. Those with the monster brake drums with cooling fins. Now have a new mystery. Besides the swaybar tabs were the FJ40 and BJ40 full floater different than the FJ45 and HJ45 prior 8/80.

 

[Chamba]

I have no idea on the earlier FF axles. But yes. The latter FF with hand brake and no sway bar tabs were 40/42, without hand brake and sway bar tabs were 45/47.

But the threaded tab for the brake cable guide was there on diff covers of the 45/47s that I've seen and many of the cool kids in Australia swapped the handbrake backing plates, etc to their 45/47s from a wrecked 40.

 

[Living in the Past]

Drums are frozen to the shoes. I did manage to get the drum off of a 1966 FJ40's axle I bought to get the coarse spline Lock Right. Drum of the 1976 FF looks the same.

 

[Chamba]

Try soaking it from inside and around the axle flange and lug nuts with pb blaster.

Use the tube to soak the shoes a much as you can and let it soak into the drum for a day or two. Then tap it periodically with a hammer.

 

[Living in the Past]

Lug nut are off. Only one there to hold the drum that frozen to show. Interesting the 66 drum has the two threaded holes to pull the drum away from hub. This one doesn't on either side. Those help break the bond between the brake shoes and the drum. Hub to drum is not the issue. Hub lugs move freely in the lug nut holes. I have some of the tools I use to break the bond at another location. This is nothing new to me. Been down these road before.

 

[FloridaLife]

If you could get this stuff in there it would do the trick too. And then if you soak the drum or any other rusty parts it comes out looking amazing! I've watched a lot of this guys really short videos showing tips that work, and then calling out the tips that do not work. I told Tim he needed a tank big enough to soak a whole 40 in it. Check this out:

 

[knuckle47]

I had actually watched that video 2 nights ago. I bought some s#!t advertised online and it was a total waste of money and time. Spray it on, rinse it off and it comes out like newly plated chrome…, NOPE!