Here's a pic of the rope with the thimble for the hook or shackle:So. 3/8" rope from Amazon came in, 80ft in orange...
So, ~ 7" inches of rope buried in the return. That'll change once I've made up my mind whether yo have a thimble or just a loop. The thimbles I have won't work with my soft shackles. I'm leaning towards a loop.