stainless steel brake lines

[redmist]

recently installed them, pedal doesn't feel much firmer if at all and still have the same amount of play before they start to bite.

i can occasionally feel the system pulsing when i brake, is this normal?

i went with the stocktech brand.

 

[Daskoff]

Timely question, I am thinking about upgrading as well but if it doesn't improve brake feel may not be worth it for me. Did you change all the lines? I think there are two over the axle besides the 2 rear caliper lines. Did you have the brakes bled with Techstream or something comparable?

 

[redmist]

Timely question, I am thinking about upgrading as well but if it doesn't improve brake feel may not be worth it for me. Did you change all the lines? I think there are two over the axle besides the 2 rear caliper lines. Did you have the brakes bled with Techstream or something comparable?

front: 950.44007
rear: 950.44507

the system was completely dry due to a brake failure and i dont think techstream was used to flush the system as it was repaired at an independent shop.

 

[Daskoff]

I only know what I read on this forum so others with more knowledge may want to chime in. But my understanding is that Techstream pulses the ABS actuator to bleed it as well. So you may still have air in the system.

I would also like to hear what other's experience with switching to SS lines from stock. Is it as OP described above? pretty much no change in brake "feel"?

 

[Gaswrk]

I installed a set of stainless steel brake lines including the two over the rear axle. I also installed ebc dimpled and slotted rotors with orange stuff pads front and rear at the same time. In my opinion the rotors and pads made a bigger difference. The brakes do feel much more confident now and if I let off a little and press harder the pedal is much firmer and doesn't go as far to the floor. All in all I think they both helped but the rotors and pads made a bigger difference and you don't have to worry about bleeding the brakes.

 

[CO18Cruiser]

Installed Goodridge stainless lines on my 11 GX. Pedal feel seemed more linear and firmer after. Followed up with EBC BSD rotors and heavy duty orange pads front and rear, definitely worthwhile. Last thing I did was use Castrol CRF brake fluid. Wet boiling point is higher than most fluids dry boiling point.

Only way to truly improve the GX brakes is go BBK. In Colorado, you find the OE brake limitations pretty quickly.

 

[redmist]

I installed a set of stainless steel brake lines including the two over the rear axle. I also installed ebc dimpled and slotted rotors with orange stuff pads front and rear at the same time. In my opinion the rotors and pads made a bigger difference. The brakes do feel much more confident now and if I let off a little and press harder the pedal is much firmer and doesn't go as far to the floor. All in all I think they both helped but the rotors and pads made a bigger difference and you don't have to worry about bleeding the brakes.

whats part number on the one over the rear axle?

Installed Goodridge stainless lines on my 11 GX. Pedal feel seemed more linear and firmer after. Followed up with EBC BSD rotors and heavy duty orange pads front and rear, definitely worthwhile. Last thing I did was use Castrol CRF brake fluid. Wet boiling point is higher than most fluids dry boiling point.

Only way to truly improve the GX brakes is go BBK. In Colorado, you find the OE brake limitations pretty quickly.

is the stoptech bbk a quality upgrade?

 

[Gaswrk]

whats part number on the one over the rear axle?



is the stoptech bbk a quality upgrade?

I ordered the Safebrake kit from Australia off of ebay. it comes with all 6 lines.

 

[CO18Cruiser]

whats part number on the one over the rear axle?



is the stoptech bbk a quality upgrade?

I’ve got a 2018 Landcruiser too. Just startimg to upgrade so won’t do it to the GX. I’d probably do this if I wasn’t putting $12-15K into my cruiser (these brakes will go on my cruiser).

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I’m a huge fan of EBC. If you aren’t in a rush they should be coming out with a 6 piston Apollo brake in the next 6-12 months. Called them to check a couple weeks ago. Once that’s out, I’d get a 6 piston front and 4 piston rear setup.

 

[bowhun2r]

The wife's 2019 GX has that spongy feel as well. She only has 12K miles on it and we got it new. The pedal is soft and then it bites hard bout half way down. She is used it and thinks nothing of it. My 2022 GX brake pedal feel is way different. It's progressive from the moment you push the pedal. The throttle mapping is different as well. When I jump into her truck (likely to put fuel in it...) I catch myself nose diving at the first stop sign as I'm used to my 2022 brake pedal feel. I've also read on CL the same brake pedal feel when I was investigating this when we got her truck back in 2019. Thought there might be air in the lines with a brand new truck. Seems it was "normal" albeit much different from our 4Runners.

 

[Rednexus]

I installed the PowerStop lines in my 470. $92 shipped from RockAuto. There was a nominal increase in pedal firmness and no increase in stopping power that I noticed. I had a kink in one of my front lines that required replacement and the PowerStops were a similar price to just getting new rubber lines, but SS should last longer. That, IMO, is the value of these - they are tougher than rubber. I would not expect a huge difference in stopping power, but I would expect to have a line that should last a very long time.

If you have a pulsating pedal you probably have some pad residue buildup on the rotors, or the rotors are warped slightly. I usually just replace the rotors when they start pulsating.

 

[r2m]

I installed SS brake lines on my first overland rig, and F350 crewcab 4x4. I had 37" tires and it was very built out (read: heavy) and I needed a little firmer peddle. After installing the lines, the peddle felt only slightly firmer. It by far was not a night and day type of difference.

 

[CO18Cruiser]

Imo unless it’s a BBK, which completely changes your braking physics, each upgrade is an incremental improvement that gets you to a somewhat better place.

 

[TheNomad]

I typically get them if the stocks are old or if I do a lot of brake work. I have to bleed the fluid on the new to me 460 so figured I may get some. I like that they are a bit stronger, and am interested to see if they actually change the feel.

 

[Rednexus]

Last weekend I re-booted my CV's. It was really nice to have the SS front brake line, instead of the rubber brake line, as it's very hard to kink a SS line when moving the steering knuckle around to get enough access to pull the CV out of the front diff housing. I damaged my OEM PS front rubber brake line in that manner; it's a very easy thing to do with a limp and flexible rubber line. Although it's probably unlikely that the lines would ever be snagged on an obstacle while off-roading, I also like that they are less likely to rip under that scenario.