Southern Cruiser Crawl 2012 - Oct 11th - 14th Hot Springs, AR

[lostinafog]

after all these years thought Bodean wanted 2 C the BSLCA smiling faces now the truth B told he only wants our $ weell can`t have one with out the other ya just gona have 2 put up with us

all kidding aside ya been pumped can`t wait. it`s always a GREAT time not sure if it`s possible but like a fine wine or bourbon it gets better n better with each passing year

 

[elephantsCBR]

Proof he actually works.

Still love that TLC. Looks good. This is as he was removing the old shocks I believe.

Thanks Cody Sent from my iPhone using IH8MUD

 

[Footwork]

Alright! Can't wait to see it!

 

[Volunteer]

Proof he actually works.

Still love that TLC. Looks good. This is as he was removing the old shocks I believe.

Thanks Cody Sent from my iPhone using IH8MUD

That spare looks new, LOL. Glad to see those preparations are getting done long before we pull out

 

[elephantsCBR]

The whole truck is new. It's amazing what they look like under. Lots of thing under there hang below the frame rails, kinda scary. But that's off subject.

 

[Volunteer]

Moved posts to proper thread to keep Sean's tire thread on topic. Now back to the SCC preparations

 

[lostinafog]

Proof he actually works.

Still love that TLC. Looks good. This is as he was removing the old shocks I believe.

Thanks Cody Sent from my iPhone using IH8MUD

note to self


have to be more careful around people that have smart phones

 

[elephantsCBR]

Dang. Now your gonna have to be careful around Tiki's mom.

 

[Bossman]

Proof he actually works.

Still love that TLC. Looks good. This is as he was removing the old shocks I believe.

Thanks Cody Sent from my iPhone using IH8MUD

Man, I sure hope you had something more under there than just that hyd jack! Please be careful under there!

I just read a report on a Toyota forklift technician that was killed when the lift he was working under crushed him. A second technician was on his way to the truck to get wood safety blocks to put under the lift in addition to the hydraulic jack so that they could safely work under the lift. Apparently the first tech decided not to wait and, unfortunately, lost his life. He reportedly left behind a wife and two small children. Fourteen years on the job....

 

[Volunteer]

Man, I sure hope you had something more under there than just that hyd jack! Please be careful under there!

I just read a report on a Toyota forklift technician that was killed when the lift he was working under crushed him. A second technician was on his way to the truck to get wood safety blocks to put under the lift in addition to the hydraulic jack so that they could safely work under the lift. Apparently the first tech decided not to wait and, unfortunately, lost his life. He reportedly left behind a wife and two small children. Fourteen years on the job....

X2 Daryl always better to be safe than sorry. My wife had a family member die the same way working on his Van fell off the jack and crushed him. Be safe over their PK

 

[lostinafog]

thanks for y`all`s concern the jacks as there were two were to hold the axle.
had & have 4 5 ton stands supporting the frame.

not impressed with SLEE or OME

factory springs are different spring weight on all four corners OME rear pair front pair will bet dollars to donuts iy`s gona lean to passenger OME`s fix is shims ya would think being in the suspension business as long as they have they could mfg correct weighted springs esp at the $ they charge

as far as SLEE goes this 200 prod date 11/11 has no capture nut`s in forward frame mount holes called talked to Christian not sure bout spelling any who after explaining the prob said never seen one with out nuts his rec was to put a couple rivnut & tack weld to frame on top

am not about to support the front end weight on a couple rivnuts and am sure as hell not welding on frame besides can`t begin to get up there because of body.
was pretty much told that was as far as he was going

fabed up some welments to pass in a small hole in frame have figured out 3 still workin on #4 placing is the fun part but will get er "done" my favorite 4 letter word

 

[Volunteer]

Sorry to hear Paul that's a bum deal both are very respectable companies in the community.. With the sliders it sounds like they gambled that they didn't change the frame on the later model 200's but now they know they did. Sean should get his sliders at cost.

 

[sleeoffroad]

as far as SLEE goes this 200 prod date 11/11 has no capture nut`s in forward frame mount holes called talked to Christian not sure bout spelling any who after explaining the prob said never seen one with out nuts his rec was to put a couple rivnut & tack weld to frame on top

am not about to support the front end weight on a couple rivnuts and am sure as hell not welding on frame besides can`t begin to get up there because of body.
was pretty much told that was as far as he was going

fabed up some welments to pass in a small hole in frame have figured out 3 still workin on #4 placing is the fun part but will get er "done" my favorite 4 letter word

Paul, I spoke the owner of this truck yesterday as well. I am sorry if I left you with the impression that we were not going to do anything about it. Just to put our side of this out there, we have installed these on 2011 model trucks and we did not have any issues, as I explained to you on the phone. . This truck had a production date of 11/11, which by all standards make it a 2012. We have not installed it on a 2012, and as you mentioned it is weird that the truck was registered as a 2011. When the purchase was made, we were informed it is for a 2011 truck, and since we have installed them on that year truck, we did not anticipate any issues.

Your call was the first we have ever heard of the nuts not being in the frame. We discussed options and I gave you a few suggestions. I do agree that one would not want to rely on rivet nuts totally, that is why I suggested the welding. However that would have to be obviously cleared by the owner.

As I mentioned, we would have to get a similar 200 series in here to examine and see what we can come up with fasteners. There is really no option for moving the foot, so as you have been doing, we would have to come up with a nut plate or something that we can insert into the frame.

When I spoke to the owner of the truck I did mention that maybe rivetnuts in the bottom two holes for now, until we come up with a solution to this. We will then obviously send what we come up to him to retrofit.

The catch is 200 series is few and far between, even here in CO. So I have to try and locate one, or see if we have a nearby customer that we can borrow one from.

Sorry that you had to deal with this, but I did speak to the owner yesterday and he seemed fine with us looking into it.

 

[Volunteer]

Paul, I spoke the owner of this truck yesterday as well. I am sorry if I left you with the impression that we were not going to do anything about it. Just to put our side of this out there, we have installed these on 2011 model trucks and we did not have any issues, as I explained to you on the phone. . This truck had a production date of 11/11, which by all standards make it a 2012. We have not installed it on a 2012, and as you mentioned it is weird that the truck was registered as a 2011. When the purchase was made, we were informed it is for a 2011 truck, and since we have installed them on that year truck, we did not anticipate any issues.

Your call was the first we have ever heard of the nuts not being in the frame. We discussed options and I gave you a few suggestions. I do agree that one would not want to rely on rivet nuts totally, that is why I suggested the welding. However that would have to be obviously cleared by the owner.

As I mentioned, we would have to get a similar 200 series in here to examine and see what we can come up with fasteners. There is really no option for moving the foot, so as you have been doing, we would have to come up with a nut plate or something that we can insert into the frame.

When I spoke to the owner of the truck I did mention that maybe rivetnuts in the bottom two holes for now, until we come up with a solution to this. We will then obviously send what we come up to him to retrofit.

The catch is 200 series is few and far between, even here in CO. So I have to try and locate one, or see if we have a nearby customer that we can borrow one from.

Sorry that you had to deal with this, but I did speak to the owner yesterday and he seemed fine with us looking into it.

Thats a standup thing to do Christo and good customer service

 

[raevenzero]

Paul: Bring that 200 to SCC

Christo: Bring FAB tools to fix problem at SCC

Me: Wheel the hell out of a 200 at SCC

Anyone catching on to this theme?

 

[Footwork]

I talked to Christo yesterday and I understand that neither he nor I could have seen this problem coming. LC is stamped 2011, I ordered a part for a 2011 and he sent me the sliders for a 2011.

Guess the biggest thing is the extra work going into it that Paul has to do. This added at least an extra day of labor, plus the fabrication of some new bits to make it work, onto my bill. I gave him carte blanche to do what he needed to make it work as his reputation is excellent and I trust his judgement.

 

[Bang Bang]

Paul: Bring that 200 to SCC

Christo: Bring FAB tools to fix problem at SCC

Me: Wheel the hell out of a 200 at SCC

Anyone catching on to this theme?

Good one Ryan.

I talked to Christo yesterday and I understand that neither he nor I could have seen this problem coming. LC is stamped 2011, I ordered a part for a 2011 and he sent me the sliders for a 2011.

Guess the biggest thing is the extra work going into it that Paul has to do. This added at least an extra day of labor, plus the fabrication of some new bits to make it work, onto my bill. I gave him carte blanche to do what he needed to make it work as his reputation is excellent and I trust his judgement.

Stupid question but why not just weld them to the frame? If you want to remove them, grinders do wonders. Just my .02.....

 

[lostinafog]

welding on a frame requires to make angle brackets or circular never ever weld all the way across it will fatigue & crack.

besides would U want to weld $1200 dollar slider that are supposed to fit & bolt on to a brand new L/C?

 

[lostinafog]

well besides that it is my favorite 4 letter word DONE!!
was able to put all 5 bolts in passenger side & 4 in driver side with no rid-nuts in forward mounts.

though Christo said NO mods to frame mount would like to see lower plate under the frame to take the shear lead off the mount bolts that is one heavy L/C

the lean is 13mm higher on passenger side would have thought it would have been lower due to fuel tank & it`s full

will let it settle needs alignment after SCC will C what we have & go from there.

if had time would patent the inner mounts & install tools with instructions

Oh! almost forgot happy TGIFF all

 

[Bang Bang]

welding on a frame requires to make angle brackets or circular never ever weld all the way across it will fatigue & crack.

besides would U want to weld $1200 dollar slider that are supposed to fit & bolt on to a brand new L/C?

Don't know.....that's why I said it is probably a stupid question.