Sold the 10 for a 20 Luxury. Stock tire diameter pic request. 255 vs 265? Defenders vs Rubitreks vs Wildpeak HT?

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I had a 10 GX on 2" Dobinsons IMS lift initially on 265/70/17 wild peaks, then upped to 285/70/17 wild peak AT3W SL's and just still ended up hating the ride in rough city driving. Recently sold that and aimed for a LX570 , but leveled up to a 2020 luxury spec and enjoy the improved ride quality, but hoping to improve even further along with the looks. It came on the 265/55/19's and other than regular driving it will hit some sand at Assateague and mild MD snow, but is going to be the family car and I'm installing the 6500 lb hitch so don't want to deal with any rubbing, heating plastic, or upsizing the spare etc. Thus aiming to see photos of TRD wheels on 265/65/17, 255/70/17, or JDM wheels on 265/60/18 tires especially if it's a 20+ or has the sport design kit. Is there a benefit to 255's and can you still air down to 15-20 psi?

Also, per Tire Rack the Wildpeak AT4W are more aggressive than the AT3W and thus the Rubitrek is basically the old Wildpeak AT3W, not sure if that's accurate, but I'm in between those, the Wildpeak HT's, and the Michelin Defenders. Defenders look a little boring but comfort levels seem to be the top. Curious on Mudder's inputs.

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Those are all stock diameter, so any stock GX on TRDs will get the look you are after.

Here is one example though of 265/65.... most everyone seems to go 265/70r17 on those wheels with success.

The meatier ATs do help though

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Comparison to a 265/70r17


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265/65r18 with a +18 offset (close enough to 20 id say). If stock is indeed +25 then youre basically still same as stock depending on wheel width chosen.


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In summary, you should go a size up......
 
I would recommend dueler ascents. They are the revision of the revo 3 and its the best tire I have had on a GX460 or 5th gen 4runner.

I rock crawl now so did not replace my revos with ascents but may put ascents on the 4runner.

The rubitrek is a tire made at a price point for discount, its an inferior tire to the other tires mentioned.


With all that being said, I dont think there is a benefit of going narrower unless you are going taller tire size wise and are on a rim with a +5 offset so your track width is still the same.

I never really got my truck where I liked it when I had 33x10.5s on oem wheels.

I went with a set of 285 70r17 revos on oem steelies after those and they road amazing, almost no NVH, and they did alright offroad in dirt and even mud.

On the road they were better than anythjng except maybe the Hakkapeliittas for grip and pavement driveability. Granted once you learn them, you can really hustle a truck on Yoko G003s.

The MTRs were the 33" LT equivalent of a 255/80. Great offroad, didnt have great lateral stability with crosswinds on a + 15 wheel. The trd pro wheels would have been better with skinniest as they push the wheel out 12.5 mm per side.

The other two tires were 285 70r17 and 285-75r17

If you run a 285 70r17 thats less than 54 lbs or so, it wont completely ruin your gas mileage as long as you are cool with cruising.

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I had SL Rubitreks in 265/70/17. I wouldn't say they're an AT3, as they were out at the same time as them. They were a cheaper, but still pretty decent, more on-road focused AT3 as well as being good in the snow. They balanced well and rode smooth, touched 100mph without issues, and I had something like 30k miles before I sold they wheels they were on. I would get another set.

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I am surprised you are had issues with SL-rated AT4Ws in 285/70R17. I went from SL-rated AT3Ws in 265/70R17 to the SL AT4Ws in 285s and immediately noticed how better they rode (dirt, pavement, off-road) than the AT3Ws ever did. In the city the rig more or less floats over potholes and broken pavement. I attributed this to the thicker sidewall. FWIW, I run them at 32 psi...if you were running them at something like 40 psi, they would ride terrible.

That being said you could also consider a lighter weight tire like a Toyo Open Country. I have not ran them myself but a lot of people rave about them. They weight less than Wildpeaks and have a lower max pressure rating so I'd expect them to be more supple.
 
I am surprised you are had issues with SL-rated AT4Ws in 285/70R17. I went from SL-rated AT3Ws in 265/70R17 to the SL AT4Ws in 285s and immediately noticed how better they rode (dirt, pavement, off-road) than the AT3Ws ever did. In the city the rig more or less floats over potholes and broken pavement. I attributed this to the thicker sidewall. FWIW, I run them at 32 psi...if you were running them at something like 40 psi, they would ride terrible.

That being said you could also consider a lighter weight tire like a Toyo Open Country. I have not ran them myself but a lot of people rave about them. They weight less than Wildpeaks and have a lower max pressure rating so I'd expect them to be more supple.

So I actually had the AT3W's in SL 285/70/17, and prior to that, AT3W 265/70/17. The issue really began once I went from 13 year old oem shocks with 120k to a 2" comfort spring Dobinson IMS lift. I searched all around for reviews and was recommended that mid range set for as close to OEM Lexus ride quality as possible, but right after the install on the first drive I was shocked as it rode stiffer than my dated oem shocks. It handled better with less roll and dive, and highway was fine, but I commute in the city and hit a ton of bad roads with RR tracks and potholes, and it was not comfortable. I then tried the 285 C rated wild peak tires(steal of a deal off a Gladiator), and then the lighter SL rated 285's. I tried various PSI levels from 30-40, but after one trip I took with 4 people and gear and it rode amazing, I realized the only thing that helped was to have either sandbags or a bunch of 45 lb weight plates in the back. With the 285's I had to have the spare strapped vertically in the back which stole a lot of space, plus every aspect of ride comfort/noise/acceleration/braking etc was worsened with the heavier tires. The first year I offroaded a bunch, but the last 3 I only went to the beach or the city every day, sometimes with snow. Now the GX is more for kid and wife duty, so I just wanted better offset wheels with a soft ride and no heavy tire issues, why I wanted a luxury/LX in the first place. Hence my question on the lighter tire options vs AT3W wild peaks. Defenders seem the most comfortable but less agressive looking, but the rubitrek seemed like a decent in between all season and aggressive AT.
 
I run Cooper A+T in a 255/70 R18(32.1”diameter) I like the tires they do well on and off road but will not fit spare tire area I have stock hd hitch also bump the KDSS components probably would not be an issue with a lift but I’m stock suspension.
 
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