SOA Spring Options

[GLTHFJ60]

Good stuff. How much did they cost, where did you get them and what suspension do you have?

Thank you!! Definate answers are the things that I have been seeking.

 

[Tapage]

I saw in this forum someone that have 39.5" Irocks in stock TLC axles .. without problems ( I thought ) in a 60 series .. I think this is a end top of the Toy TLC axles.

 

[GLTHFJ60]

What do you mean "I thought."?

 

[Tapage]

What do you mean "I thought."?

Isn't my TLC, I believe in his information about full locked axles, good and heavy off road use, and no problems .. I appears in a thread some weeks ago.

When I use those tires in my TLC ( are in my plans ) I can say ( based on my own experience ) that function fine ..

 

[Mace]

I would not personaly trust a 40" tire in a 60 on stock axles. Better upgrade at least to Alloy axles and 30 spline longs...

Weight of the tires kills axles.

 

[fergus]

Does anyone here run 14.5 inch wide tires?

Do you think that 38.5 inch tires will fit in the wells?

How will 35" tires look?

I do.
And no, 38.5/14.5 (2" backspacing)won't stuff into the wheel wells!
Especially when flexing and in the front when turning.
Not the tires for a DD IMHO.
I run 36/12.50 SS Radials for long road trips and those work awesome.
They rubbed too(when flexed out)before I trimmed the wells.
My pretty darn fresh OME Med/Heavy springs now in SOA have relaxed a whole lot.My 6-8" of lift is now 4-5" FYI.It now rides like a cadillac.

HTH

Breakage definite with stock axles if wheeled!My rear FF hasn't yet, but front Warn Crap has....

 

[Tapage]

I would not personaly trust a 40" tire in a 60 on stock axles. Better upgrade at least to Alloy axles and 30 spline longs...

Weight of the tires kills axles.

Well off course if you plan go over 37" front cromo set is obligatory, I have my own ( 27 splines .. yes I know bad deal ) and Locked much more ..

Anycase, with a " big " tires for our axles not only involve axles .. I think in bearing ( king pin ) much more in my case with 2" wheel spacers.

 

[GLTHFJ60]

I think that I'm going to go with the tires that Waggoner5 has. It seems like he has the largest tire without any major rubbing issues. BTW, he said that he has 37x12.5 MTR's. Then I'm going to get some beadlocks to run them at ultra low pressures for crawling.

 

[GLTHFJ60]

So, should I get some OME med/heavy springs and wait for them to sag?

 

[Man Jerk]

I'm running 35's on a hodgepodge of lift springs, shackles and body lift. The place that I rub is the front of the fenderwell. I have cut some metal out, but need to clearance it out a bit more because I still rub quite a bit. I also rub in the rear fenderwells, but there isn't a whole lot of room back there.

It is nice being low, but I need a lot more room under the framerails. I high center pretty easy.

Lot's has been said about stock springs with the Man a fre add a leaves. The long ones seem to work pretty well, and aren't too expensive.

 

[Man Jerk]

So, should I get some OME med/heavy springs and wait for them to sag?

You can always have a spring shop de-arch them for you as well.
This is a great but expensive route to take. It is obiously tested and they seem to work great.

Personally, when I do mine I will probably just do the add a leaf route.

 

[fergus]

So, should I get some OME med/heavy springs and wait for them to sag?

You mean like sit there ,drink beer and stare at them sagging?

I think the SOA configuration is really hard on leaf springs that was more or less the point ............I think?

 

[GLTHFJ60]

Yeah I know that it is, no offense. My method of thinking was that if I get really stiff springs that the soa will soften them up a bit for me. Then I can run the higher capacity springs and still ride relatively well.

I want to ride relatively low, but I need new springs, so i I get OME's, I want them to sag in such a way that they will allow 38 inch tires, but not horribly high.

What do you think about that?

 

[Hey Charger]

Didn't you go through all this in your other post SOA vs SUA ??

have you done anything regarding your SOA setup and is that what your going to do ?

GLTHFJ60 , you seem to be a little undecided on what you want to do , your thinking of going a 38 x 14.5 , you wont get that in like others before me have mentioned , ive got some 37 x 12.5 x 15 MTR's and they fit great but anything wider will not tuck in.

If your that concerned about 1/2" extra diff clearance with a 38" from a 37" tyre ,

what you do is when you do your your SOA if thats going to happen rotate your pumpkins upwards to the sky and you will be able to shave 1" of your pumkins which is really 2 inches of diameter , and then you've got under diff clearance that equals a 39" tyre !! , and you've saved money buying smaller tyres.

In other words " there is more than one way to skin a cat " ,

the other thing i remember you mentioned on another thread somewhere that your working to a reasonably tight budget ,

so what you can do is cut corners to save money on things like

* new springs vs good second hand springs ??
* 35" - 37" tyres vs 40" tyres , the initial cost of the smaller tyres will save you money , but the other thing is if you go too big and you haven't sorted out things like cv's , axles , ratios and ofcourse a motor that will turn them ,

it will cost you s*** loads more money in the long run from breaking things , so unless you going to sort all those issues out first dont bother .

And what you will have if you dont sort all that out is a nice 60 on 40" tyres , that you cant take off road cause you dont want to cut the guards ,
so that means that you will have no articulation ,

you will be s*** scared that you may break something because everything is too weak around those tyres , and also you wont get anywhere because your under powered .

I suggest you work out what type dream rig you want and work towards that in the right order of build up ,in this situation money is no object,

otherwise be realsitic and work to get the best trail rig out of the money you have to spend , which is probably what 99% of people including myself on this forum do and slowly chip away.

See how you go , cheers

Hey Charger.

 

[GLTHFJ60]

Thank you for the advice. I will put more thought into the tire that I will buy, because an inch really dosen't make a difference. Thanks for shedding light on that situation.

In terms of the research, I have done alot of research into prices for parts and such, while I have also throughly examined my truck as to how solid its frame is. I would not even bother thinking about suspension if the frame was shot.

I am the type of guy that saves up and does everything at once, so that's what I'm going to do with this conversion. I am putting excessive amounts of time into research so that I do this conversion right the first time. I also do not want to rebuild the suspension a million times to get the final result. This is my method.

Please keep your thoughts and opinions to yourself as to whether or not I have done any foot work on this, because I have. I have located a shop, tools, a welder and parts suppliers to be able to do this conversion right. Thank you.

Advice I accept with thanks, criticism I reject with disgust.