retro-fitting OEM lockers -Wiring Harness (1 Viewer)

[4x4CPOSEADOG]

Sorry to bring this back up, but I need to get this done before a wheeling trip coming up, and I look like this when I see electrical wires

Here's what I've already done.

- Bought an e locked rear axle - rotor to rotor . Connectors from axle harness to locker motor are present but only two inches of wire is left from those connectors, they were cut., and ABS connectors are present.

- I have bought and installed locker control, ecu, bulbs.

- I have bought an LX450 floor harness but have not installed it.

My 1st question is this. Since I have the connectors for the e locker motor, Am I still going to be able to make my 13 inch long harness?

Looking at the loose connectors, theres the two wire connector (w/lock tab up its 1-yellow, 2 - black and white)

and

The other connector is 5 wires. (lock tab up (1 green, 2 green blue, 3 -X(blank), 4 yellow/green, 5 black/green, 6 black/white

How come you can make a 5 wire connctor if 7 wires are coming out of the elocker motor? Sorry if that's a stupid question.

Which plug in the 3 plug bundle under the jack carrier do these wires connect to? And what type of connector do I need to buy to get it to work?

Thanks in advance.

The 2-black/white wire and 6 black/wire are ground and are splice together inside the wire loom. 7 wires minus 2 wires spliced together equals 5 wires coming out of the e-locker motor.

The biggest connector under the jack holder with empty slot is where you connect the 5 wire.

That makes sense, where do the other 5 wires go? into which connector?

Since you have the lx450 wire then you have all your male installed and all you need is the 5 female pins/wirea to connect to the main connector. Check the first picture out and the second picture is a bare 5 wires taken out of the wire loom. Let me know if these make sense.

 

[4x4CPOSEADOG]

Here' a pic of one of the connectors that the junk yard cut the wires, that plug into the elocker. I couldn't get the other pic to upload.

I'm assuming I need to run these to one of the connectors underneath the jack mount, but what type of connector do I need at the other end of these wires, so that it can plug in to the LX450 harness?

That wire you were holding on your hand is the diff lock switch wiring harness which tell you (blinking or solid red light in the instrument panel) when the rear locker is unlock (blinking red light) or lock (solid red light). Here is another picture.

 

[sricruiser]

SWEEEEET!!! I think I'm getting somewhere. I'm not really going to need to look at the second picture if I have the LX450 harness right?

If I connect the #2 and #6 wires together, do they then get wired to the connector with a pin?

In the first picture, I see where you've marked numbers for the different pins, but I don't see where the number 4 pin goes? Or is that marked for something else?

So all things equal, I don't have to buy another connector for my 13 inch harness, I'm just bridging off the main harness to the elocker via 5 pins connected to the rear main harness and the two connectors I already have that hook up to the elocker.

 

[sricruiser]

Sorry 4x4CPOSEADOG

I forgot to thank you for the pics.

 

[4x4CPOSEADOG]

SWEEEEET!!! I think I'm getting somewhere. I'm not really going to need to look at the second picture if I have the LX450 harness right?

If I connect the #2 and #6 wires together, do they then get wired to the connector with a pin?

In the first picture, I see where you've marked numbers for the different pins, but I don't see where the number 4 pin goes? Or is that marked for something else?

So all things equal, I don't have to buy another connector for my 13 inch harness, I'm just bridging off the main harness to the elocker via 5 pins connected to the rear main harness and the two connectors I already have that hook up to the elocker.

Do you see the black/white wire on the second pic? That black/white wire needs to be grounded to the body. You need to connect a ring connector to that wire then ground it.

Would you mind posting picture of all your wiring harness so we can see what you missing? thanks.

 

[sricruiser]

Sure, I'll snap some pics when I get home, the LX450 harness is there.

 

[sricruiser]

Here's a few pics of the harness I noticed that the LX450 floor harness is has 5 pins where my stock harness is lacking, but I also noticed that my stock harness has all five pins on the bottom where the LX450 doesn't. Is this important? Is this going to be an issue?

First pic is end of wiring harness of LX450,

2nd is close up of big connector with 5 pins present in top right but no pins on bottom row

3rd is pic of unlocked harness with 5pins not present in top right but all pins present on bottom row

 

[4x4CPOSEADOG]

Here's a few pics of the harness I noticed that the LX450 floor harness is has 5 pins where my stock harness is lacking, but I also noticed that my stock harness has all five pins on the bottom where the LX450 doesn't. Is this important? Is this going to be an issue?

First pic is end of wiring harness of LX450,

2nd is close up of big connector with 5 pins present in top right but no pins on bottom row

3rd is pic of unlocked harness with 5pins not present in top right but all pins present on bottom row

Picture #1 can you take pic of that harness from one end to the other end?
Picture #2 Is this the one from a LX450 harness?
Picture #3 you are missing the 1, 2, 5, 6, and 12 male pins on that connector. Is this your stock harness currently installed on your truck? If it is then you have to either replace that harness with the LX450 or you have to make that 5 wire long harness that will fit from the rear sill all the way to the driver side kick panel just like what Boston Mangler did on his 80. Check this out: http://www.bajaoverland.com/elocker.php

It is very important to have all male and female pins if you want to get your rear locker to work.

 

[sricruiser]

Sorry I didn't describe those too well

Pic one is of the LX450 harness, Pic two is of the LX450 harness, Pic three is of the current stock harness that I need to pull to replace with the LX450 harness. What I'm worried about is that on pic two, there are some pins missing on the LX450 harness that my current stock harness has. Is this going to be an issue?

 

[sricruiser]

I guess a better way to say it would be that the LX450 harness connector in the second pic is lacking pins 7, 8, 11,13,15,16,18,19,20 , but it does have (1,2,5,6,12.)

Where the current LC harness (non-elocker) has all pins except for the pins you mentioned ( 1,2,5,6,12) Does this go in line with Toyota making one generic harness, to cover most options or does this mean I have to take the wires from my harnes and add them to the LX450 harness.

You mentioned that I need all pins for the elocker to work, were you talking about (1,2,5,6,12) or all pins in that connector?

Thanks again for helping me out with this thing.

 

[landtank]

me and a coupkle of friends are going to attempt to transplant factory lockers and controls to a 92 out of a 93.

Any thoughts on that as far as compatibility?

 

[sricruiser]

me and a coupkle of friends are going to attempt to transplant factory lockers and controls to a 92 out of a 93.

Any thoughts on that as far as compatibility?

I guess it depends on how close to stock the install needs to be. I've read that those who do the 80 elocker swap into minitrucks have made progress with making their own elocker computers and controls as well as using the stock elocker computers. Not that I know much about this stuff but, I think the hard part is going to be trying to get the ECU's to jive.

 

[4x4CPOSEADOG]

me and a coupkle of friends are going to attempt to transplant factory lockers and controls to a 92 out of a 93.

Any thoughts on that as far as compatibility?

I don't think they are compatible. 93-97 LC unlock trucks came in with the wiring for the dial switch, however did not come with the 5 long wires from the rear sill to the driver side kick panel, only the 96-97 LX450s. How would you run the electronics, factory or your own fabrication? Find out if there is a empty gray plug on the PS kick panel to see if the 91-92 are wired for the locker. If not, then you have to fab your own.

 

[4x4CPOSEADOG]

I guess a better way to say it would be that the LX450 harness connector in the second pic is lacking pins 7, 8, 11,13,15,16,18,19,20 , but it does have (1,2,5,6,12.)

Where the current LC harness (non-elocker) has all pins except for the pins you mentioned ( 1,2,5,6,12) Does this go in line with Toyota making one generic harness, to cover most options or does this mean I have to take the wires from my harnes and add them to the LX450 harness.

You mentioned that I need all pins for the elocker to work, were you talking about (1,2,5,6,12) or all pins in that connector?

Thanks again for helping me out with this thing.

This is what I'm going to do if I were on your shoes. I will take (remove) the 1, 2, 5, 6, and 12 male pins out along with their long wires from the LX450 connector then plug them in to the existing unlock connector on your truck. Since these are only 5 wires I will wrapped them up with electrical tape, then will route them up separately from the bundle of wires from that existing connector all the way to connector located on the driver side kick panel. This way you will save a lot of time and headache. Look on Cruiser804 picture in reference to the connector on driver side kick panel.

Since your LX450 connector has a lot of missing pins, it would be practical to use the existing connector currently installed in the truck.

You only need the pins mentioned above to get your e-locker to work.

You are more than welcome. Let me know if you still have questions or something.

 

[mmuthart]

If you are retrofitting and don't need the factory functionality and look (rotary dial, locker ecu, and all the complexity that comes with it) simply get a harness, led, and switch from 12voltguy.com. to turn your toyota elocker on and off. Easy.

 

[sricruiser]

This is what I'm going to do if I were on your shoes. I will take (remove) the 1, 2, 5, 6, and 12 male pins out along with their long wires from the LX450 connector then plug them in to the existing unlock connector on your truck. Since these are only 5 wires I will wrapped them up with electrical tape, then will route them up separately from the bundle of wires from that existing connector all the way to connector located on the driver side kick panel. This way you will save a lot of time and headache. Look on Cruiser804 picture in reference to the connector on driver side kick panel.

Since your LX450 connector has a lot of missing pins, it would be practical to use the existing connector currently installed in the truck.

You only need the pins mentioned above to get your e-locker to work.

You are more than welcome. Let me know if you still have questions or something.

That sounds like a good plan of attack. I definitely feel better doing that than putting in the lx450 harness, since it is missing a lot of pins. I wonder why that is?

this is the only question that I really have left to ask..... I know that When I make my harness from the elocker to the newly modified floor harness the black and white wires get grounded to the frame, but which slot on the female connector on the sil harness do all the other wires hook up to? Is there a particular spot or do I just put them in any empty slot?

 

[sricruiser]

If you are retrofitting and don't need the factory functionality and look (rotary dial, locker ecu, and all the complexity that comes with it) simply get a harness, led, and switch from 12voltguy.com. to turn your toyota elocker on and off. Easy.

The problem is I want the functionality and look. I want the mod to be as close to stock as possible. It's like putting an aftermarket radio in the stock radio location, It may do the job just as good or even better than the stock radio, but it just doesn't look like it belongs there.

 

[4x4CPOSEADOG]

That sounds like a good plan of attack. I definitely feel better doing that than putting in the lx450 harness, since it is missing a lot of pins. I wonder why that is?

this is the only question that I really have left to ask..... I know that When I make my harness from the elocker to the newly modified floor harness the black and white wires get grounded to the frame, but which slot on the female connector on the sil harness do all the other wires hook up to? Is there a particular spot or do I just put them in any empty slot?

Look at the first pic on post #21, you can see the pins are already labeled and numbered which you can go with that reference. Now to make it even easier for you, here are the color coding and number of each wire where you will install them in that big female connector. Rear left quarter panel connector called BQ1, you use pin 1 (green-blue), pin 2 (green), pin 5 (green-black), pin 6 (geen-yellow), and pin 12 (yellow-white). Have fun

Dang! you're burning the midnight oil. Whatcha doin at 12:07 AM?

 

[Jamison Workshop]

If you are adding your own 5 wire harness from front to back. Are these the colors you will be looking for in a plug in the driver side kick panel.

I have everything in except making the harness in the back and running the 5 wires up to the front.
Just want to make sure I am plugging them in the right place up front.

 

[packetstormin]

Picture #1 can you take pic of that harness from one end to the other end?
Picture #2 Is this the one from a LX450 harness?
Picture #3 you are missing the 1, 2, 5, 6, and 12 male pins on that connector. Is this your stock harness currently installed on your truck? If it is then you have to either replace that harness with the LX450 or you have to make that 5 wire long harness that will fit from the rear sill all the way to the driver side kick panel just like what Boston Mangler did on his 80. Check this out: http://www.bajaoverland.com/elocker.php

It is very important to have all male and female pins if you want to get your rear locker to work.

This guys website is gone and I need the instructions for making the 5 wire long harness. Can anyone help me out with this?