Replacement First Aid Kit

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I just found out I need to replace my first aid kit due to water damage in the back of my cruiser (I need to figure out where the water came from as soon as I can get a dry day off, grrr), so I now get a chance to review what I had (lots of expired medicines) and prepare a new first aid kit. I am trying to keep the overall cost below $150 (plus the case I have already bought) to start with but may more later.

For my needs, I do some camping and several day trips a year that are outside cell phone coverage areas so help may not be particularly fast in arriving (although we do have CB and sometimes HAM radios with us). We always have more than one vehicle as well. We do have several children that normally go with us (ages 4-10) so that is also a factor (and the main reason I want extra burn care and cut/scrape stuff). My family doesn't have any severe allergies (yay!), but I do travel with a couple people that do (they bring their own epi-pens).

After reading thru several threads and other things, this is the direction I am leaning towards right now but want to get any thoughts before I pull the trigger on this.

My old kit was an Adventure Medical Kit "Outfitter" kit with some supplemental items. It had most of what I wanted and although I can find it still (here) I suspect that most items in it are expired since it is no longer made. Their replacement kit is the Grizzly ($70 at Amazon) which is almost the same and I am probably going to get it as a starting point for my new kit. There is a local pharmacy that has lots of individual and small packs of materials that I will price compare with first, but I expect this will be more cost effective as the starting point.

For a case, rather than the cloth bag the starter kit comes in I have a water-tight case for this and will use some reflective tape to make it very visible and obviously a first aid kit. I would have preferred a Pelican 1500 EMS but that is more than I want to spend. I am going to try to get just the top insert though.

AMK Grizzly Contents:
Bandage Materials
9 - Bandage, Adhesive, Fabric, 1" x 3"
7 - Bandage, Adhesive, Fabric, Knuckle
2 - Bandage, Conforming Gauze, 3"
1 - Bandage, Elastic, Self Adhering, 2"
3 - Dressing, Gauze, Sterile, 2" x 2", Pkg./2
3 - Dressing, Gauze, Sterile, 4" x 4", Pkg./2
2 - Dressing, Non-Adherent, Sterile, 3" x 4"
Bleeding
1 - Gloves, Nitrile (Pair)
1 - Syringe, Irrigation, 20 cc, 18 Gauge Tip
Blister / Burn
1 - Moleskin, Pre-Cut & Shaped (14 pieces)
CPR
1 - Instructions, Easy Care CPR
Duct Tape
1 - Duct Tape, 2" x 50"
Fracture / Sprain
1 - C-Splint™, 4" x 36"
1 - Cohesive Elastic Bandage, 2"
1 - Bandage, Elastic with Velcro, 3"
2 - Bandage, Triangular
1 - Instructions, Easy Care Fracture & Sprain
Medical Information
1 - Comp. Guide to Wilderness & Travel Medicine
Instrument
3 - Thermometer, Disposable
Medication
4 - After Bite Wipe
4 - Antihistamine (Diphenhydramine 25 mg)
2 - Aspirin (325 mg), Pkg./2
4 - Diamode (Loperamide HCI 2 mg), Pkg./1
5 - Ibuprofen (200 mg), Pkg./2
1 - Instructions, Easy Care Medications
Wound Care
8 - Antiseptic Wipe
1 - Cotton Tip Applicator, Pkg./2
1 - Instructions, Easy Care Wound
2 - Skin Tac Topical Adhesive Wipes
1 - Syringe, Irrigation, 20 cc, 18 Gauge Tip
1 - Tape, 1" x 10 Yards
4 - Triple Antibiotic Ointment, Single Use
1 - Wound Closure Strips, 1/4" x 4", Pkg./10
1 - Register Your Kit card
2 - Orange 2" x 2" Biohazard Label
2 - 5" x 8" Ziplock Baggie
1 - Povidone Iodine 3/4 oz
Field/Trauma Kit
3 - Dressing, Gauze, Sterile, 4" x 4", Pkg./2
2 - Gloves, Nitrile (Pair)1 - Instructions, Easy Care Bleeding
1 - QuikClot Sport 25g
1 - Trauma Pad, 5" x 9"
1 - Trauma Pad, 8" x 10"
1 - Moleskin, Pre-Cut & Shaped (14 pieces)
1 - CPR Face Shield
1 - EMT Shears, 4"
3 - Safety Pins
1 - Splinter Picker/Tick Remover Forceps
1 - Pencil
1 - Accident Report Form
1 - Aspirin (325 mg), Pkg./2
2 - Ibuprofen (200 mg), Pkg./2
4 - Antiseptic Wipe
1 - Dressing, Petrolatum, 3" x 3"
1 - Swat-T™ Tourniquet
1 - Orange 2" x 2" Biohazard Label
1 - 5" x 8" Ziplock Baggie

Additional Items I am wanting to add:
  • CPR Mask (not just a flimsy face shield) - Already have this.
  • Bee Sting Kit (I don't have to worry about snake bites or I would add a snake bite kit too)
  • Poison Ivy Wipes
  • Sunscreen - Already have this.
  • Aloe Vera Gel with Lidocaine - Already have this.
  • Eyewash and eyepads
  • Hand sanitizer - Already have this.
  • Fingertip bandages (in addition to more knuckle and regular bandages - superhero and princess bandaids are required. :) ) - Already have this.
  • Derma-Bond (or superglue)
  • Smaller steri-strips
  • Smaller splints - Already have this.
  • Some large burn pads (second skin or similar)
  • Burn Aid Gel
  • Instant Cold Packs
  • Sterile Burn Sheets (for a clean work surface)
  • Povidone Iodine swab sticks
  • 2" and 3" Wide Self-Adhesive bandages - Already have this.
  • Disposable Scalpels (2 sharp point, 2 round point)
  • Small Box Q-Tips (travel pack) - Already have this.
  • Emergency blankets and ponchos - Already have this.

What am I missing? Is there anything else for a relatively basic first aid kit that you would bring with you? Anything specific for the children with us?

I saw some threads / recommendations with things like blood pressure cuffs, suture kits, ace collars, epi-pens, etc., but I have the training to use them. We do encourage people with severe allergies to bring what they need in case something happens. As I get more training I may decide to add some of the more specialized items but until that they aren't necessary.
 
Here are the best threads I found to use as references for anyone else looking into this.

Note: You need to make your own decisions on what to purchase and carry with you. Some of these are WAY beyond what an untrained person needs to or should carry untrained.

Threads dealing with First Aid Kits:
First Aid Kit (EMT Kit)
Building Initial First Aid Kit
Home Built First Aid Kit
UC First Aid Kit
Finding a Large Group First Aid Kit

Specific posts showing FAK contents:
Rising Sun Offroad Cruise Moab Kit
Stuff to keep in your cruiser at all times

LC Specific FAK Mounting options:
First Aid Kit Hanger
80 Series D-Pillar Mount
 
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I recently read a forum member's recommendation for "Adventure Medical Kits" and they're pretty well put together. You can see them on amazon, I got the "Mountain Series Weekender" for 30 something dollars, and it's the best kit I've ever seen for that price range. I'll add a few things to it but that's to be expected IMO.
 
I recently put together a home first aid kit as well as a mobile kit from the perspective of covering a group of 10-12 on hiking/camping trips with the goal of providing stabilization or symptom relief long enough to get the victim out of the woods - not definitive treatment.
If your goals are different, my suggestions may or may not be adequate but here we go.

My tips for what they're worth:
-Always be looking for duel purpose items and know why you have each item.
-larger bandages can be cut down or folded over - I carry abd pads, 4x4 gauze, and 2" bandaids.
-I don't carry a thermometer because that info wouldn't change how I treat a situation in the field.
-If you're bringing iodine, don't bother bringing alcohol wipes or 'antisceptic' wipes.
-Likewise don't bother with 'burn' creams or aloe vera or 'bite' wipes or 'sting' wipes
..I keep general purpose wet wipes and lots of triple abx oint.
(as a side note, if you wash off the poison ivy/oak/sumac oil within 2 hours you likely won't react to it -and even if you do it will be 3-5 days later anyway)
-'emt shears' are generally crap. any that come with a kit are almost certainly crap. discard them and get a pair of good old fiskars.
-no need for special 'eye wash kits'. have sterile water and an old 35mm film cup and a couple cut down q tips. that will get most foreign bodies out of the eye.
-SOL makes a nice solar bivy that is much better than any solar blanket and it packs down small.
-super glue for medium cuts that bandaging isn't sufficient for - though honestly it's a rare cut that you can't control with a proper pressure dressing.
-tourniquet for those truly nightmare scenarios but be reluctant to use and know what you're doing.
-I also carry quick clot but be reluctant to use in a real life situation.
-tampons - easy fix for nose bleeds, and for mixed company.
-good sized sam splint- these are padded and can be folded or cut to size needed.
-a couple ace bandages and coban for splint and dressings.
-good set of tweezers/pick ups.

meds is a whole other category. don't carry it if you don't know what it's for or when to (not) use it and be aware of allergies if you are providing for someone else.
the non-rx meds I carry include benadryl (a potential life saver, everyone should have in a kit), tylenol, ibuprofen, aspirin, imodium, zantac, pepto.
I also carry an oral rehydration solution as well as sucrose (for diabetics that get low)

I also carry something akin to monkey butt powder for long hikes.

This is just a quick list and not all that I carry, but I'm able to put together what I think is a nice kit and portable whether in the car or on my pack.
Remember to focus your attention on what you're most likely to see. In my estimation, the most dangerous things I'm likely to encounter in the woods amongst young hikers are dehydration and a previously unknown anaphylactic reaction. (I carry an epi pen too but I haven't touched on rx meds).

I like this kind of stuff, so let me know if you have questions or need clarification.
 
I'd add a good hand lens and replace the "Splinter Picker/Tick Remover Forceps" with some high quality tweezers.



Tweezerman for tweezers. It's the only kind Ive ever seen that have a precision tip and actually work right.
 
What am I missing? Is there anything else for a relatively basic first aid kit that you would bring with you? Anything specific for the children with us?

We do encourage people with severe allergies to bring what they need in case something happens. As I get more training I may decide to add some of the more specialized items but until that they aren't necessary.

To answer your specific question, yes people with severe allergies should know they are at risk and carry what they need. If you are a leader of a group of youngsters, I think it important to get that kind of info out in the open.
I'm a scout leader for 5th graders and one of the things we did this year was make a individual first aid kit for each boy. Now everybody carries their own basic bandaids, ointments, moleskin, etc (just basics, nothing fancy) and we trained in use of everything in their kits.
 
Based on my experience the stuff that gets used the most;
-Assorted band aids, these are the best I've ever found
Nexcare™ Active™ Waterproof Bandages
-Triple antibiotic
-Pepto tablets or Donagel, cause nobody wants the squirts in the woods and it happens pretty often.
-Benadryl/Claritin etc.
-Aspirin/ibuprofen/acetaminophen
-Lip balm with sun screen (I always carry a spare cause I don't like to share and somebody always forgets theirs.)​

Those items plus a good pair of tweezers for splinters, stingers etc. will cover about 99% of what you will actually run into.
The other 1% ..........
 
Thanks! Mostly I am hearing that I have more stuff on the list than is probably necessary. I hope that is true and am completely fine with that. I am more concerned about missing an obvious item or something that would be useful to have with children around but adults won't normally need.

I recently read a forum member's recommendation for "Adventure Medical Kits" and they're pretty well put together. You can see them on amazon, I got the "Mountain Series Weekender" for 30 something dollars, and it's the best kit I've ever seen for that price range.
Absolutely, I was very pleased with my old Adventure Medical Kit and am planning on using an equivalent one as the base of my new kit unless I can find a more cost effective way to stock it. For the kit I am looking at (link above) I really doubt I can do that. The included book ("Comprehensive Guide to Wilderness & Travel Medicine") is a pretty good reference too and you can get it used for very cheap.

I recently put together a home first aid kit as well as a mobile kit from the perspective of covering a group of 10-12 on hiking/camping trips with the goal of providing stabilization or symptom relief long enough to get the victim out of the woods - not definitive treatment.
If your goals are different, my suggestions may or may not be adequate but here we go.
For emergency items, my goals are about the same, but I do want some more comfort items and trauma items as well. For camping, we normally have 8-12 in 2-3 vehicles. For day trips it is normally 8-16 in 3-5 vehicles.

I want comfort items because of the ages and temperaments of some of our regulars, meaning the kids...mostly, I want to have more medicine cabinet stuff than might otherwise be needed. Comfort and protection for some of the little things that wouldn't be an issue for many people but are "the end of the world" for some kids. Making sure I have superhero and princess band-aids will make things considerably easier for some of the parents. A bee sting kit to make that as painless as possible for those who have to listen to the kids after they get stung.

I want more trauma items because we also do some shooting so I want to make sure that we have at least some trauma stuff available in case something happens, especially since some of the younger kids are getting to where they are allowed to come with us.

-Likewise don't bother with 'burn' creams or aloe vera or 'bite' wipes or 'sting' wipes
This goes with the comfort items above.

-'emt shears' are generally crap. any that come with a kit are almost certainly crap. discard them and get a pair of good old fiskars.
I have a nice set of shears from my mom (an OR nurse).

-tampons - easy fix for nose bleeds, and for mixed company.
I had surgery a few years ago and instead of getting expensive gauze the surgeon recommended using unscented feminine hygiene pads when I had to change the dressing. Cheaper, still clean, less likely to leak through and you have them for any ladies that may be in need too.

meds is a whole other category. don't carry it if you don't know what it's for or when to (not) use it and be aware of allergies if you are providing for someone else.
the non-rx meds I carry include benadryl (a potential life saver, everyone should have in a kit), tylenol, ibuprofen, aspirin, imodium, zantac, pepto.
I also carry an oral rehydration solution as well as sucrose (for diabetics that get low)
If I have any higher strength Rx meds leftover from a procedure I will bring them with me but only for my personal use. Everybody reacts differently to meds and out in the field isn't the right place to be finding out. I do carry the general tylenol/ibuprofen/etc. And lots of water. I will be adding some children's ibuprofen and tylenol.

-Lip balm with sun screen (I always carry a spare cause I don't like to share and somebody always forgets theirs.)
I will add that to my list too.
 
I'd add a good hand lens and replace the "Splinter Picker/Tick Remover Forceps" with some high quality tweezers.
The magnifying glass works as a nice windproof firestarter too. If it's light out, that is...
 
-Lip balm with sun screen (I always carry a spare cause I don't like to share and somebody always forgets theirs.)​

What lip balm has worked for you? I cannot find any that does not turn to oil in the heat..
 
I've resolved myself to multiple ziplock baggies..
 
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This is my mobile kit:

It rolls up about the same size as my sleeping pad.
 
In addition to the things you mention I include Israel military battle dressings, lots of second skin burn pads, a Brazilian wax kit ( to remove cactus spines without having to pull out each one individually), sunscreen, 4% lidocaine (it's Otc). With the crew you are traveling with, I'd include finger splints. Depending on training you could take ns or d5w with a
 
What lip balm has worked for you? I cannot find any that does not turn to oil in the heat..
You live in a furnace, deal with it. Just melt down whatever you get at home and put it in a small makeup jar.:flipoff2:

Seriously, I look for stuff that comes in small jars and has a high SPF. I also found some stuff at CVS that comes in the tubes like Caramex and Vaseline that has a sun block, it turns to oils but is has a screw cap.
 
Thanks! Mostly I am hearing that I have more stuff on the list than is probably necessary. I hope that is true and am completely fine with that. I am more concerned about missing an obvious item or something that would be useful to have with children around but adults won't normally need.


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Oragel
Childrens Tylenol
Little Remedies Tummy drops (this is a miracle drug)
Clifford Band aids, don't know why but they seem to work better than regular ones. ;) My grand daughter has me use one if I get a boo boo.
 
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