Removing Middle Seats
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Bumping this thread - my JDM truck also seems to have these weird tamper proof bolts on the inner rear mounts. Any ideas where these are coming from? Can't get these bastards out.
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Not sure what wire you are talking about. Sh[uldnt be any electrical stuff there that I know of.
Worst case scenario use a hammer and chisel?
I saw a post earlier in this thread, recommending putting the bolts back in to keep the threads clean.
X2 this fine thread can be hard to find should you miss place a bolt before it’s time to put the seats back in. I also have a little loop of para-cord captured under the bolt heads, in case I need another tie down. In fact I have removed the rear bars for the 3rd row seats & more paracord loops, as well as the high 3rd row seat belts with ….. more paracord loops !! (This last set is rather gratuitous, but has saved my dog from getting avalanched a few times )
X2 this fine thread can be hard to find should you miss place a bolt before it’s time to put the seats back in. I also have a little loop of para-cord captured under the bolt heads, in case I need another tie down. In fact I have removed the rear bars for the 3rd row seats & more paracord loops, as well as the high 3rd row seat belts with ….. more paracord loops !! (This last set is rather gratuitous, but has saved my dog from getting avalanched a few times )
Instead of paracord loops I used rock climbing anchors. Super solid, and you can clip just about anything onto it! A bonus is that you can belay from the driver's seat!
In Spain it is illegal remove seats and use the vehicle on the road, so I have seen these 'anti tamper' bolts before, in fact if I took my 80 to an inspection without the third row which as we know simply 'unclip' it would fail.Put regular metric bolts back in there for sure...I can't even count the number of times I have pulled all of the seats out of my rig for various reasons. No point in having any tamper proof bolts...have to really question why anyone would EVER put those into the truck, as it is not really something that someone would ever consider stealing.
Steve
Just to help you get your head around this, I could not present my car for importation in Murcia back in 2010 as it was deemed to need a 'special' assessment in Alicante at a cost of circa euro 1000.00 or 1130.00 USD! So I drove 20 kilometres into another province and the cost was euro 200.00! But as Spain only allowed a maximum of 7 seats my car was deemed illegal but, if I removed one of the third row seat belts, it became legal simply because I could not carry an eighth passenger without a seat belt. The following year (same inspection depot and same inspector) the 80 was going to be failed on the fact that I had fitted a sunroof! Of course in the UK the 80 came with a sunroof AND AC....whooo I hear you say, in Spain it was AC or sunroof never both, only when it was after lots of checks did the examiner decide it was OE he marked my 'Ficha Technica' (data card for the vehicle) with a pass. The following year I went to the test station in Murcia the province I lived in at the time, and the 80 was failed, in Murcia every seat must have a seat belt!
Fortunately I had kept the old one in the garage and bolted it in and the pass was issued. Now I live slap bang on the Murcia/Almeria border, if I turn right out of the driveway I am in Murcia with my 8 seats and 8 belts, if I turn left I am in Almeria, so have to pull over and get the tools out and remove one of the seat belts.....do I ****!!
Regards
Dave
Interesting! This may explain why USDM trucks don't have these according to others.
Thanks for the tag, Ip2k! I have the same anti-tamper bolts in the rear seats of my 1992 HDJ81. I have a crafty idea for easy removal, will report back if it works.
Cheers!
Cheers!
Got mine out today. Extraction bit and pliers.
Another way to do this is a hacksaw at 90 degrees to the existing flat blade screw area. It's effectively what you did, but without a special tool.
I used to do doors, windows, locks, and bathroom stall rebuilds at a university and we used a hacksaw to cut a new slot in the head of the anti-tamper bolt heads, then unscrew them.
You can do this with a Dremel also.
Yeah the Dremel trick is my go-to but its being borrowed by family