regular VS. car top tent

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Yeah i dig being up off the ground too... we were visited by a pack of coyotes 2 weeks ago in Anza Borrego too.. apparently i slept right through it lol
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I fitted my Mombasa to a 1/4-ton military trailer. It is really great for long camping trips where you have to carry lots of water and fuel in the trailer underneath the tent. Its maiden voyage was Big Bend last month (Chihuahuan Desert). Rooftop tents are great for desert environments where the ground is very hard/rocky and there are critters and cacti everywhere.

From a cost standpoint though, there is no defense. A ground tent is MUCH cheaper, but I love the coolness factor of the RTT...
 
I have pitched tents and slept in blizzards on snow all of wich I would much rather do in a RTT

Jennycruiser might have some left. His name is Chad and he is great and can ship as well

Mine is the sam as socal FJ I love it, got it from Jennycruiser (Chad)
 
Basically I find roof top tents on trailers a good idea.
There are many disadvantages with roof top tents, though.
I'm a very experienced camper and I don't like them as much as other people. Here are the reasons:
1. In the morning everyone has to pee. It's a pain in the rear to climb down, if you really have to go. This is especially true if it is dark! Don't laugh, every experienced camper knows what I'm talking about.
2. The car is rocking back and forth if the people in the tent move (I leave the reason why it's rocking up to your imagination).
3. There are situations (hopefully you will never encounter one) when you will have to leave in a hurry. It takes far more time to get down from the car and into the car then it takes from a ground based tent.
4. For the price of a roof top tent you get the best regular tent there is. Quality ground tents withstand weather conditions far more severe then any roof tent on the market. In a good quality ground based tent you will not get wet.
5. You can leave a ground tent on a camp ground and still use your vehicle. With Roof tents you always have to fold up to use your vehicle. (That's why a roof top tent mounted on a trailer is a better idea)

Roof tents sure look very adventurous and cool, put for hard-core campers, I don't think it is a good choice.
 
Basically I find roof top tents on trailers a good idea.
There are many disadvantages with roof top tents, though.
I'm a very experienced camper and I don't like them as much as other people. Here are the reasons:
1. In the morning everyone has to pee. It's a pain in the rear to climb down, if you really have to go. This is especially true if it is dark! Don't laugh, every experienced camper knows what I'm talking about.
2. The car is rocking back and forth if the people in the tent move (I leave the reason why it's rocking up to your imagination).
3. There are situations (hopefully you will never encounter one) when you will have to leave in a hurry. It takes far more time to get down from the car and into the car then it takes from a ground based tent.
4. For the price of a roof top tent you get the best regular tent there is. Quality ground tents withstand weather conditions far more severe then any roof tent on the market. In a good quality ground based tent you will not get wet.
5. You can leave a ground tent on a camp ground and still use your vehicle. With Roof tents you always have to fold up to use your vehicle. (That's why a roof top tent mounted on a trailer is a better idea)

Roof tents sure look very adventurous and cool, put for hard-core campers, I don't think it is a good choice.

Getting out of ANY tent to pee in the morning is a pain in the ass, period. I have not found the RTT to be anymore difficult than a regular tent. As a matter of fact, I find it easier to put my shoes or thongs on while my feet are hanging out of the RTT.
Of course, that is just one man's opinion.

Also, I differ with you on the weather resilience. I have been in a couple of EXTREME wind conditions with both of my RTTs and both held up very well. I have seen quality ground based tents get blown away in multiple situations and I guarantee, my RTT ain't going anywhere while attached to my 6,000lb 80.

I do, however, agree with the inconvenience of having it on the car at times. If there is one disadvantage to the RTT, this is it. Best if the car is going to remain stationary for a couple days at a time. But I have camped in areas where a ground tent simply would not work.
Trailer, even better, if you don't mind dragging a trailer around.


Never going back to a ground tent again, unless I have to.
 
Ask and ye shall receive...:D

Looks a heck of a lot thicker than the old style when folded up! Glad i didnt keep my old one and put a new ladder on it.. i dont know how the old cover would have worked!

Mine should be in today!!!

Im still trying to figure out how im going to drill into my rack and know exactly where the nuts will be on the tent when i mount it... i guess it will be easier to figure out once it arrives. I really dont want to take my whole rack off just to mount the tent.
 
Looks a heck of a lot thicker than the old style when folded up! Glad i didnt keep my old one and put a new ladder on it.. i dont know how the old cover would have worked!

Mine should be in today!!!

Im still trying to figure out how im going to drill into my rack and know exactly where the nuts will be on the tent when i mount it... i guess it will be easier to figure out once it arrives. I really dont want to take my whole rack off just to mount the tent.

There is no drilling required. It bolts on with plates and vertical bolts. The bolts sit on each side of the load bars and the plate fits on underneath. Very adjustable to any width and it can you can mount so it opens from side or front / back. Much more versitile than the old one.

Hard to explain and I forgot to take up close pics, sorry. But you will see when you get it.

It is about 3.5" thicker when closed than the mombasa, even more with the ladder sticking up. However, the difference in the ladders is worth the extra height.
 
Right on. I hope the plates that your talking about are wide enough for my floor slats.


The bolts slide seperately on tracks and are fully adjustable, if the bottom plates don't quite reach, it would require you just buying a 5/8" wide strip of steel and cutting some plates of your own to appropriate length and drilling some holes in them.
You could drill through your slats but that seems like it would be a major PITA to get it lined up correctly.
 
Basically I find roof top tents on trailers a good idea.
There are many disadvantages with roof top tents, though.
I'm a very experienced camper and I don't like them as much as other people. Here are the reasons:
1. In the morning everyone has to pee. It's a pain in the rear to climb down, if you really have to go. This is especially true if it is dark! Don't laugh, every experienced camper knows what I'm talking about.
2. The car is rocking back and forth if the people in the tent move (I leave the reason why it's rocking up to your imagination).
3. There are situations (hopefully you will never encounter one) when you will have to leave in a hurry. It takes far more time to get down from the car and into the car then it takes from a ground based tent.
4. For the price of a roof top tent you get the best regular tent there is. Quality ground tents withstand weather conditions far more severe then any roof tent on the market. In a good quality ground based tent you will not get wet.
5. You can leave a ground tent on a camp ground and still use your vehicle. With Roof tents you always have to fold up to use your vehicle. (That's why a roof top tent mounted on a trailer is a better idea)

Roof tents sure look very adventurous and cool, put for hard-core campers, I don't think it is a good choice.

After using one several nights/week over the course of a year, here are my thoughts in response to your "disadvantages"

1. That's what the square nalgene is for. (never drink the square nalgene).
Or just hang out the door that doesn't have the ladder.
If you camp somewhere where dogs are welcome.... you might find that an RTT has the huge advantage of being beyond the marking height of most dogs.

2. If the cars rockin' don't come knockin' ! Seriously, though, ground tents don't hide noise very well either. And the mattress-comfort in the RTT more than makes up for the lack of stealth. You could always guy out the roofrack to some trees if you are really worried about swaying.

3. It doesn't take any time at all to get down from the car if you need to. And unless you pitch your tent right next to the vehicle... any time you spend getting down will be made up for by the fact that you are right by the car. Of course, the corollary to that is -- while you on the rooftop, your truck is much safer than camped somewhere a hundred feet away. When we spent the night in Westwood (Los Angeles) we didn't want to unload all our camping gear and crap... so we just slept in the tent. Didn't get a great sleep that night (traffic, drunk college kids yelling, etc) but at least we were pretty sure nobody was going to break in to the 'cruiser while we were sleeping on top of it. Best part: in the morning some kid walked by with his girl and stopped her to describe (in detail) just how much he liked our cruiser. Its a nice way to wake up, hearing someone admire your handiwork. :)

4. No argument there. An RTT costs more than a regular tent. Much, much more. But then, they are also a higher-quality shelter. Normal tents make big compromises in order to shave weight. A very expensive camping tent likely employs high-tech stays and materials in an attempt to shave 1/2 pound of weight. An RTT doesn't compromise like that. 1 lb more or less doesn't make a lot of difference to our cruisers.

5. Mobility is another good point. But I've packed my RTT in literally 1 minute (while being attacked by swallow-sized mosquitos in Mexico). But if you move around a lot and want to maintain a base camp, a trailer isn't a bad option. That said.... if you really want to setup a base camp, you could take the RTT off of the truck and put it on a stand on the ground. Maggiolina made some racks that were purpose built for just that. It eliminates some of the height advantages, but retains the super-comfy mattress, insulation from the ground, and overall high-quality construction.

In the end... RTT is better than a ground tent if you don't mind the serious increase in price **for most car campers**. There are certainly situations in which the RTT can't work. But in my not-so-limited car-based travel experience, an RTT is one of the best investments we've ever made on our vehicle and increases camping comfort.
 
Am I the only camper on this board that doesn't sleep / camp where I park?

The last time we went camping we drove in to a new spot and "could" have utilized a RTT...but it still would've put us "away" from the general area of camping.

I like RTT's...a LOT. I think the prices are fxxxing retarded though, at least for me considering I would use it on maybe 1 out of 3 trips....

Dif'rnt strokes I reckon...
 
This has been a great thread, thanks everyone.:cheers: I have come from the line of ULTRA LIGHT camping where we could get everything we needed for a week in about 40-50 pounds. I think with a good Thermarest mattress. (extra wide and extra long) the ground has worked wonders. As for inclimate weather has anybody just thought about a tarp? My thinking is
1. we love the outdoors so much we will drive to it.
2. The hundreds of dollars you spend on a tent will offer you much the same protection as a tarp and bug net.
3. with a tarp you dont have to worry about dirty shoes.

some drawbacks of this plan I think are snakes and critters, there is no barrier for them. just a thought to spur on discussion

Squigmond
 
no doubt you *can* enjoy camping just as much or more with minimal gear.
But a basic fact is that when you've got a 5,000+ lb vehicle along, there is not much need to skimp on comfort items. A roof top tent is an absurdly heavy alternative to any traditional tent.

But it is also very, very comfortable. Especially comfy where critters are an issue, or where the ground is particularly unpleasant (many desert settings, some beaches (rocky ones), etc). Also nice if the ground is very muddy/soggy (frequently an issue in the tropics).

Let's face it-- nobody *needs* an RTT. But if you can justify/afford the expense, and you like to sleep in comfort, there are few alternatives that are more comfortable than an RTT in most of the situations where I've camped.

Another advantage that I forgot to mention before-- the RTT also gives you a place to store soft-gear that you aren't likely to use during the day- like a coat or spare clothing- the seals on our tent were surprisingly dust-resistant, unlike the main cabin in the truck.
 
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