Question on stock ride height suspension options...

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Hello, all:

After 7 years of owning a 100-series, I was fortunate to acquire a beautiful 1995 80-series. This is an Arizona truck and I am the third owner--my brother-in-law bought it 3 years ago from the wife of a colleague who had passed away and who was the original owner. 228K miles and no rust to speak of. My BIL did a lot of baseline/deferred maintenance when he had it. This truck is so nice that I want to keep it as stock as possible, at least for now. Here's a pic:

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As far as suspension maintenance goes, I know that the rear shocks and all the front and rear control arm bushings were replaced within the last 3 years with OE Toyota parts. Likewise, the front steering bushings and the steering damper were also replaced with OE. The front shocks are Gabriels, from before my BIL bought it, and he was planning to do front and rear bumpers before he sold it, so he deferred on replacing the front shocks. The springs are original on all four corners, and they are sagging somewhat.

While the front Toyota coils are available (@$160 + apiece), the rears seem to be discontinued. I ran into this on my 100-series, and ended up using the OME 860s in combination with the OE Tokico shocks, which works well on that truck.

On the 80, I don't necessarily want a lift, and I definitely don't want to have to install the castor correction bushings since the front bushings are quite new. I researched the sticky thread, and I am somewhat overwhelmed at trying to figure out what to do. Googling stock height options, I came across this Dobinsons kit @ Exit Offroad that seems like it might be a good solution. So, a couple of questions:
  1. Anyone have experience with this kit?
  2. Since it is a stock height kit, would it be possible to buy just the springs (C59-210V front and C59221V rear) and use them with the Tokico shocks (necessitating replacing only the front shocks with Tokicos, since the rears were recently replaced).
  3. Any other options I should be considering?
Thanks in advance for helping out an 80-series newbie.

Best,
Tim
 
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following... I made a similar post, and didn't really get any response.
 
I am running dobinson stock height coils with OEM tokico shocks on a '94. No issues for me with this setup.
Excellent! That is probably the route I will go.

Out of curiosity, how do the Dobinson springs feel to you in terms of rate/stiffness compared to the Toyota springs? I am sure they will be stiffer than 30-year old sagging springs. Reason I ask is that I've often found shock/spring sets (whether for 4x4s of sports cars) to be over-dampened (or undersprung), causing a harsher ride because the vehicle is riding the shocks instead of the springs. I found the 860s on the rear end of my 100 work much better with the Tokico shocks, giving improved ride quality.

Thanks again for the info! I will update this thread as I dive into this.

Best,
Tim
 
Excellent! That is probably the route I will go.

Out of curiosity, how do the Dobinson springs feel to you in terms of rate/stiffness compared to the Toyota springs? I am sure they will be stiffer than 30-year old sagging springs. Reason I ask is that I've often found shock/spring sets (whether for 4x4s of sports cars) to be over-dampened (or undersprung), causing a harsher ride because the vehicle is riding the shocks instead of the springs. I found the 860s on the rear end of my 100 work much better with the Tokico shocks, giving improved ride quality.

Thanks again for the info! I will update this thread as I dive into this.

Best,
Tim
I went from OME coils to the Dobinsons, so I don't have a direct comparison to the OEM coils. They are definitely smoother than the OMEs. I imagine they will feel more stiff than a well broken in set of OEM coils, but not harsh at all in my experience.
 
I’m running stock height Dobinsons springs and Koni Heavy Track shocks in their softest setting. I feel that the Tokico shocks are more supple on the road with a stock 80, but I have been very happy with the Koni shocks especially when the truck is loaded up with gear.
 
dobs and ome both have stock high variable rate springs that should work well and pair with with the stock shocks. you may end up getting 1" of lift though.
 
Doesn't look like it to me. Measure from middle of hub to fender on all wheels.
That's a good point. I will measure before buying anything to see if there is any deviation from the approximately 20" hub to fender stock height.
 
That does look good. How's the ride quality compared to the OEM?
As some have stated mine came with an old sagging suspension. When replaced it was noticeably more grounded and less body roll. Anything with new set up would be far better than before.
I choose dobs because my other 3 rigs has them and it rides better than OldMan Emu. This build is to daily drive it so I wanted stock height with 285s. Im still able to camp off fire roads and light trails.
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Doesn't look like it to me. Measure from middle of hub to fender on all wheels.
I measured them. The rears are at 20.5 inches, which seems just right. The fronts are at 19.25 inches, which seems a bit low.
 
how's it ride? I'd love to do this combo, but worried the back will sag with my boat and trailer on.
The Tokico shocks with the dobs springs gives you the right combo of firmness on the streets and cushions impacts when bombing through "whoopies" sanddune trails. I also installed a whiteline thicker rear swaybars with landtank brackets so the ride hugs the corners with minimal body roll.
If you want stock height and to be able to tow, think about doing airbags in the rear. Otherwise you will need a puck in the rear but you will get a stink bug look when not loaded.
 
I measured them. The rears are at 20.5 inches, which seems just right. The fronts are at 19.25 inches, which seems a bit low.
The 80's definitely sit lower in the front than the back from the factory. That's pretty close to "normal" I believe. Can't remember what mine are. Have it written down somewhere.
 
The Tokico shocks with the dobs springs gives you the right combo of firmness on the streets and cushions impacts when bombing through "whoopies" sanddune trails. I also installed a whiteline thicker rear swaybars with landtank brackets so the ride hugs the corners with minimal body roll.
If you want stock height and to be able to tow, think about doing airbags in the rear. Otherwise you will need a puck in the rear but you will get a stink bug look when not loaded.

I'm currently using Pedders (Aussie brand), shocks and springs at standard height. Both are stiffer than factory, and I do not get any noticeable sag in the rear. It just rides horrendously over bumps, but that may be due to the older KM2 Goodrich Mud Tyres, which have incredibly stiff sidewalls, and while mine have tonnes of tread left, they were manufactured back in 2012, so the rubber will be getting harder with age. I've had 2 back surgeries, and drive on country rodes, so would love something more complaint.
 
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