OME trim packers
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MoJ said:
thanks. by unstable I meant the stack of spacers would not hold well together. Don't these things have a groove for the spring coil? If so, seems like stacking would not work so great. But I guess one could put one each on top and bottom is they are flexible enough to handle the "step" at the bottom?
Nay said:We have to stop calling these things trim packers...it just doesn't sound good in the Northern Hemisphere
I'm not suprised to see that so many people are wearing out their OME suspensions. Despite the bulletproof reputation, as the markets mature for a specific rig and heavy duty usage increases...time (and worn out springs) seems to tell that OME is not the prime choice (and yet I am keeping mine until I wear it out 'cause it is free to me now).
I'm going to say it again: coil springs do not settle (somebody please challenge this!!!), and high quality springs should be able to withstand years of trail use and nearly a lifetime of road use. A spare tire set a foot to one side will not compress two coil springs 1/2". Anybody with the leans (and a properly installed set of coils) should start thinking about that Slee 4" (and some Bilsteins).
Nay
I've been thinking along the same line -- Being in the spring business (non OME competing)I have started to believe that OME coils are not what they should be. I believe (without having anything scientific to back it up) that the carbon content and/or heat treat process is to blame. However, with all due respect, I can say with certainty that your statement about coil springs not settling is incorrect. All coil springs will take an initial set but should do so in a predicted, consistent, pre-planned manner.
MoJ said:
Agreed;
Even well designed and properly manufactured springs do settle upto 1%
of their free height. LC's are notorious for leaning left. I believe it's a
well known behaviour, not a problem. If you like the stock ride like I do,
(OEM stock springs and shocks) 10mm spacers on the DS front and rear
will level them out.
It could be uneven weight distribution over time leaning more on the left,
such as 25gal gas tank on the left and driver's weight on left most of the time.
Just a thought...
ryanjl
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e9999 said:
The top of the springs is a different diameter than the bottom, as the spring tapers in about 4" above the axle.
The 10mm spacer is sized correctly for the top of the spring. The 5mm spacer is sized correctly for the bottom.
As stacking two 10mm (20mm total) of spacers on the top will not allow the spring to be held 100% tight by the cone, or 2 5mm spacers (10mm) on the bottom will not allow the spring to seat properly, a max of 15mm of packers are recommended per spring.
That said, I have 20mm of spacers on my ds front, 10mm on the ds rear. Sits level now, might even lean to the ps when I'm not in the vehicle.
When hitting bumps at certain angles, though, I can hear my front ds spring clunk a little. If I wanted to do it correctly, I'd get a 5mm spacer for the bottom of the spring and call it good.
ryanjl
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MoJ said:
Are you talking the diameter or the thickness? The 5 & 10mm I have on hand are both the same diameter.
I was talking about the diameter. I had been told things were they way I said they were, but I guess that's wrong if they are the same diameter. I've never used a 5mm spacer, but it would make sense that 15mm is the max "recommended" as, with my 20mm of spacer, the centering cone is beginning to taper and doesn't hold the top of the spring 100% tight.
The 5 & 10 mm are the same size (OD, ID, just different Thickness), they are all intended for the top of the coil.
As for the 1/4" that "was" listed on my site versus the different amounts listed elsewhere. That has been corrected, the site now indicates the OME "recommended" maximum of 15mm (~9/16"), however as noted, 20mm combos (and greater
) have been added with no ill results. There was a guy 7-8 yrs ago that made some 2" aluminum spacers back before J's were on the scene... I remember thinking he was hardcore. 
As for the 1/4" that "was" listed on my site versus the different amounts listed elsewhere. That has been corrected, the site now indicates the OME "recommended" maximum of 15mm (~9/16"), however as noted, 20mm combos (and greater
) have been added with no ill results. There was a guy 7-8 yrs ago that made some 2" aluminum spacers back before J's were on the scene... I remember thinking he was hardcore. 
hkimsoft said:
The reason we are getting lean is that OME never designed springs for a US truck, other than the Tacoma. The Oz and US trucks are not mirror images when going from left hand drive to right hand drive. So we just deal with it and use packers to level when needed. Would have been nice if they actually did them for a US truck, but not practical at this point.
sleeoffroad said:
Mine is stock with original springs and shocks... 10mm lean to left...
Just added 10mm packers last night to DS front/Rear and it's now leveled.
No comments to OME products as I have no experience with them.
My 80 used to lean to the driver's side, then my 115# wife started driving it as a DD and over the past six years it's managed to level out. Maybe just be patient and everything will work it's way out, or marry a little blond thang and enjoy.
e9999 said:
Flat, no spring groove...