sweet for now..........this is what I said and all has been good so far.
No-Start rears its ugly head. Saga continues. Sleuth(s) still needed.
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where is this neutral safety switch? Are you all talking about the button in front of the shifter that you can pop the cap off and press it with a pen or screw driver if there is a brake light out and the shifter will not shift out of park?
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The neutral safety switch is on the transmission itself. Located on the driver side of transmission housing facing the drivers side. Its a small square box attached to the side of the tranny with wires coming off it. That's the best I could do for a description.
How are your no-starts going?
i will check to make sure the connections and wires look good.
Well, i had the pause/grind once today. It started, but it sure sounds like it's hammering something. I just hope it doesn't break something else much more expensive.
Well, i had the pause/grind once today. It started, but it sure sounds like it's hammering something. I just hope it doesn't break something else much more expensive.
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My best guess.... Sounds to me like a bad starter solenoid. The solenoid can't hold contact and interrupts power while cranking. With that you get the resulting grind as the gears try to mesh and re-engage. I'd get the same thing every now and again before I changed to the reman. starter.
ron, keep me posted if that fixed it. I think i remember landtank offering up a solenoid that he had purchased from Dan. I may ask him if it's still available if that's what fixed your issue.
Still sitting out in the garage.
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i'm going to give ron a week or so to see if that's it. If so, i'll be pming you!
I installed the reman. starter on Feb. 24th
March 10th would be two weeks 
I will keep...
an eye on this post. I have the same symptoms
The first time I heard the loud pop I thought I lost the motor. My symptoms started after a new plunger and contacts Hummm??
an eye on this post. I have the same symptoms
The first time I heard the loud pop I thought I lost the motor. My symptoms started after a new plunger and contacts Hummm??
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an eye on this post. I have the same symptoms
Bummer to hear... what "Pop" do you speak of?
I was having similar issues on The Whale recently. I did similar things as you...
Replaced starter with new and used one - all testing good (even did gear-reduction vs. regular)
Replaced dual battery setup with new Optima red-tops
Replaced battery connectors
Replaced on fender silenoid
Removed after market alarm and kill switch and rewired ignition where it had a bypass in it
It started fine until Monday, then nothing. My issue was the small wire coming to the the Starter silenoid. The connectors looked fine, but when I was putting new connectors on it, the wire broke in 2. It was incredibly old and brittle and looked to be melted in spots from the header heat. Replaced it and now I'm starting consistently every time!!!
Maybe one more thing to look at for you.
Kris
Replaced starter with new and used one - all testing good (even did gear-reduction vs. regular)
Replaced dual battery setup with new Optima red-tops
Replaced battery connectors
Replaced on fender silenoid
Removed after market alarm and kill switch and rewired ignition where it had a bypass in it
It started fine until Monday, then nothing. My issue was the small wire coming to the the Starter silenoid. The connectors looked fine, but when I was putting new connectors on it, the wire broke in 2. It was incredibly old and brittle and looked to be melted in spots from the header heat. Replaced it and now I'm starting consistently every time!!!
Maybe one more thing to look at for you.
Kris
thanks. i will have to find time to crawl under her again and examine wires.
Sounds like it's time to start bypassing circuits. When I had this problem I wired a momentary switch on a lead run to the cab straight from the battery to the solenoid for a couple weeks, then used the same lead to by pass the tranny swtich, the alarm, the ignition switch etc. until I found the problem.
If the battery-to-solenoid jump always works, you know your starter is fine.
If the jumper on the neutral switch always works, it's your neutral switch.
And so on. In my case, even though I had a factory alarm, the P.O. had wired in a 'custom' kill switch, and the twisted-together wires had fallen out of love and we're making only intermittent contact. It was easy to find the problem with a plan of attack, and I didn't have to spend a dime replacing parts.
Here's the real trick though, wire up the momentary switch from battery pos. to starter solenoid semi-permanent and use a seperate lead for troubleshooting. That way as you're troubleshooting you don't get STUCK! It's easy. I ended up wiring a marine protected momentary switch in the engine bay permanently.
Good luck!
If the battery-to-solenoid jump always works, you know your starter is fine.
If the jumper on the neutral switch always works, it's your neutral switch.
And so on. In my case, even though I had a factory alarm, the P.O. had wired in a 'custom' kill switch, and the twisted-together wires had fallen out of love and we're making only intermittent contact. It was easy to find the problem with a plan of attack, and I didn't have to spend a dime replacing parts.
Here's the real trick though, wire up the momentary switch from battery pos. to starter solenoid semi-permanent and use a seperate lead for troubleshooting. That way as you're troubleshooting you don't get STUCK! It's easy. I ended up wiring a marine protected momentary switch in the engine bay permanently.
Good luck!
Bummer to hear... what "Pop" do you speak of?
mine are totally random. But it always does start.
Mine are either a slight pause, just before the starter turns on, or, (and this is the weird one) its almost like power is cut from the starter in the middle of a cycle and then re-applied. Make sense? It usually will make a loud "Pop" sound as the starter tries to pick backup. When this happens i will let off the key, pause a second and then start it up. Weird....
A loud bang/pop sound
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1 week and 2 days. Still going.
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2 weeks.
It's been a month+ now Ron, what's the story? This is like waiting for the next episode of 24!
My similar problem started this week...no clicking though. I'm thinking Neutral kill switch.
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It's been a month+ now Ron, what's the story? This is like waiting for the next episode of 24!
My similar problem started this week...no clicking though. I'm thinking Neutral kill switch.
My vehicle is all good. 8 weeks and going strong
I'd look at the starter first off. Why do you suspect the neutral switch?
