My new FJ-43

[Landpimp]

well that answers the top question, I knew they were made localy but someone else said they came from Japan like that....and I didnt buy that story

fenders just dont look right, have and odd shape to them, cant lay my finger on exactly what it is.

cool rig.......enjoy

QUOTE=OREJADEPERRO;3023357]LandPimp :
Thanx for your comments.

You are right in steering column is an adaptation. It is not originally
of FJ-43.

The car is re-painted recently, but originally it had the same color red.
That model came in soft-top version, and the actual hard top (Fiber
glass) was made and adapted locally.

Parking brake is on the t-case (rear axle).

I dont know what you mean with "front fenders are odd ...", but
im pretty sure that front fenders are original.

I 'm not sure about stock turn signals.

Thanx for your comments again.[/QUOTE]

 

[OREJADEPERRO]

pics soon

I will post more pics soon.

 

[CruisinMT]

the top is what threw me off. The ridges look similar to a bandi. Not dissing at all, Thats a pretty clean rig. Just needs new Meats.

 

[OREJADEPERRO]

Meats ???

When you say bandi, you mean Bandeirante ?
What do you mean with "new meats" ?

 

[JohnnyC]

yes:
Bandi = Bandeirante

meats = Tires

 

[CruisinMT]

Thanks Johnny

 

[malcb]

I dont know what you mean with "front fenders are odd ...", but
im pretty sure that front fenders are original.

Having stolen a pic from the current ROTW by MDH33 (which I like alot) The fenders perhaps look slightly more rounded thats all, then again are they wider, noticed the same on the cars for sale.

I have to say the 70 series indicators apear to be mounted exactly the same on all the photos on the car sale page, I can't belive everone changed the stock the for exactly the same, some quite late models on there as well, also mounted in the same place.

Interesting idea, fenders always seem to rust from the indicators to the edges.

 

[Landpimp]

I agree, have seen 100's of them mounted just the same, but its almost impossible that they came like that new....as the 70 series was not around....unless those same lights were used on something else in the 70's.....but I dont think I have seen them on anything but a Land Cruiser.

my guess is the fenders on most SA rigs look sorta the same(ie not the same as we have) because they "may" have been made localy or they may darn near all have been repaired.....like when the orignaly signals were removed, the fenders were all redone.........dont know just a gusss.

I have to say the 70 series indicators apear to be mounted exactly the same on all the photos on the car sale page, I can't belive everone changed the stock the for exactly the same, some quite late models on there as well, also mounted in the same place.

Interesting idea, fenders always seem to rust from the indicators to the edges.

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[OREJADEPERRO]

Is it a joke ?

LandPimp :
Do you really think that all fenders (included mine) have been
re-done, and that all of them were made in the same local factory ?
I think that is absolutely improbable !

I dont see absolutely none difference between Rig Of
The Week's fenders, and my Fenders.

 

[SouthBostonFJ40]

I see a difference. The outermost edge of the 43 fender has more of a "hanging" lip on it. Look right where the glare is. MDH33's fender has a straighter more natural line to it.

 

[Landpimp]

anything is possible....was not ment as a joke.

maybe its just the angle of the pic or the glare off the fenders...but they look odd to me. Didnt mean a local factory but is these came in as knock down kits then its possible some of the body work was made new in Columbia, just like the top, but I really dont think they made fenders for them.....they came with them from Japan

no more improbable than all the 4X series having 70 series lights when built new in the 1970's.......

anyone have any 40 series brochures from Columbia or thereabouts? would love to see what these looked like when sold new

you can also see the holes in the fenders where the originaly lights were mounted.......

LandPimp :
Do you really think that all fenders (included mine) have been
re-done, and that all of them were made in the same local factory ?
I think that is absolutely improbable !

I dont see absolutely none difference between Rig Of
The Week's fenders, and my Fenders.

 

[malcb]

LandPimp :
Do you really think that all fenders (included mine) have been
re-done, and that all of them were made in the same local factory ?
I think that is absolutely improbable !

I dont see absolutely none difference between Rig Of
The Week's fenders, and my Fenders.

Not altered or repaired, perhaps just a slightly different former. If they are a little wider that would make sense, my problem in the UK is tires can not stick out from the vehicle (when the steering is straight).

It's not that anying is better or worse, every 40 series owner has different views of what they like best, some like the F engines, some like the 1.5 F, some like the 2F, some like their Chevy V8's and there is a Audi engined 40 series that sounds interesting. I am always amazed by the amount Toyota changed some parts but also how much in interchangable from year to year, that lets people mix things up an use the parts they think best.

With the indicators, I like the benifits they have, not 100% I would swap mine but think it's sort of nice that South America has a diferent version.

Our vehicles are all full of history, keeps it interesting.

To put it into perspective some owners put alot of time into finding the bolts that have the indent in the head, not top of my list of things to do but I like the original bolts and one day I might change a few as someone has done the hard work finding them.

When you have been reading the list for a year or so you will know what is important to you, my guess is like me, not the bolts but the whole vehicle and what you do with it.

 

[OREJADEPERRO]

Agree

I agree with Malcb.
I dont care if the bolts are original from factory. I just need they do
their job, to keep my rig in good condition.

I think there are purists in extreme here.

It's impossible to get 100% originality in our rigs.
The steel available today, is not the same steel available after II ww.

The goal is improve our rigs.

 

[JohnnyC]

fenders look good to me just bent down a bit...look at the yellow one in this thread alone...it gets wacked and it bends down...if the fenders are made in tiawan like mine...they move around like jello

your right OREJADEPERRO there are alot of purists here...but we're all here to help each other out and improve our rigs...just as you stated

you'll have to excuse our impulsiveness to talk about your rig...we dont have all that many SA rigs in our forum...and information about them is scarce.

still very interested in that top...do you have any other information on the maker? is it all fiberglass sides and top panels? the rear of the top is also interesting...any good pics of the rear...door especially...is it a full one piece door? or does the top lift up and has 1/2 doors lower?

 

[Landpimp]

dont get me wrong, you have a great 43 there.......and they are not something we in the US are use to seeing. I ment to disrespect but as I was going by what you wrote(and what my eyes see) I wanted to clarify somethings you may not have been aware of

well part of me is a nuttcase purist to the extreme.....like on my 82 Fj40, then I have my 45 pickup with is a missmatch of this and that(mostly all Toyota but from many different years/models) body is rough and I like it that way, paint it faded and I spray canned it......love it like that, gas pedel throttle cable is....to put it mildly scary.......but heck I like it and have no disire to change it.

chance are.......you will never see me doing a chevy swap in to a 40 though....gotta draw the line somewear (actaully I had a 45 with a 350.......hated it and sold it)


"Everything in my FJ-43 (mechanically) is abosutely authentic
japanese Toyota :
(engine, transmission, transfer, brakes, clutch,
water and gas pumps, distributor, carburetor,
body, chassis, painting color, suspension (leaf springs), manual
steering, glasses)."

I agree with Malcb.
I dont care if the bolts are original from factory. I just need they do
their job, to keep my rig in good condition.

I think there are purists in extreme here.

It's impossible to get 100% originality in our rigs.
The steel available today, is not the same steel available after II ww.

The goal is improve our rigs.

 

[hollowbase]

I want one to.

 

[watrob]

dont get me wrong, you have a great 43 there.......and they are not something we in the US are use to seeing. I ment to disrespect but as I was going by what you wrote(and what my eyes see) I wanted to clarify somethings you may not have been aware of

well part of me is a nuttcase purist to the extreme.....like on my 82 Fj40, then I have my 45 pickup with is a missmatch of this and that(mostly all Toyota but from many different years/models) body is rough and I like it that way, paint it faded and I spray canned it......love it like that, gas pedel throttle cable is....to put it mildly scary.......but heck I like it and have no disire to change it.

chance are.......you will never see me doing a chevy swap in to a 40 though....gotta draw the line somewear (actaully I had a 45 with a 350.......hated it and sold it)


"Everything in my FJ-43 (mechanically) is abosutely authentic
japanese Toyota :
(engine, transmission, transfer, brakes, clutch,
water and gas pumps, distributor, carburetor,
body, chassis, painting color, suspension (leaf springs), manual
steering, glasses)."

I agree with you Landpimp.

These FJ's are getting onto 35 years old and the older they get the quicker they deteriorate, it is also getting harder to find parts.

In another 30 years parts won't be your problem, petrol will be and diesel oil will be replaced with Bio oil of shorts so you probably will be ok with a diesel FJ.

Petrol FJ's will be an item you lock in your garage and tell you grandchildren of the good old wheeling days when petrol and more to the point the forests were still open to drive through.

It's not that you cannot restore your FJ every 6-10 years its the fact that its getting expensive and its very time consuming. You can cut the rust out today but another spot shows up tomorrow, its never ending.

So you need to upgrade your FJ to be more robust. Bolts & nuts need to be changed to stainless, chassis hot dipped in gal, steel replaced with fibreglass.

That still leaves you with replacement or repair of diffs, axles , bearings, seals, brakes & cluctch, motor and so on. That in itself is enough to keep you busy over the next 30 years.

So like you said it does not really matter how original the FJ is, it matters that you have one and that it is safe, reliable and you that you can maintain it accordingly.

My $0.02

 

[malcb]

I agree with you Landpimp.

In another 30 years parts won't be your problem, petrol will be and diesel oil will be replaced with Bio oil of shorts so you probably will be ok with a diesel FJ.

Petrol FJ's will be an item you lock in your garage and tell you grandchildren of the good old wheeling days when petrol and more to the point the forests were still open to drive through.

Wonder how long before a 40 series gets a Honda Hydrogen engine!

Wheeling in forests - probably find a few artifical forests get made for the hydrogen powered 4x4's to roll through.

 

[watrob]

Wonder how long before a 40 series gets a Honda Hydrogen engine!

Wheeling in forests - probably find a few artifical forests get made for the hydrogen powered 4x4's to roll through.

You may see that but in 30 years I will be buried in that forest. As they say poking up daisey's.

 

[sparkplug]

I also was not trying to offend. OREJADEPERRO you have a very nice Land Cruiser. I, like landpimp am a purest when it comes to some of my cruisers. I have a 82 FJ-40 that came with factory air and power steering. Besides suspension and tires that truck is 100% Toyota. I also have a 79 BJ-40 that has your same turn signals. I am 100% sure they are not factory. The picture of the Yellow BJ-40 that I had in the past was wrecked by a friend of mine(see page 1) I went to the Purdey Toyota dealership in Costa Rica and wanted to replace with originals. It was there that the parts department guy explained that was the reason for people wanting to switch from factory 40 turn signals and because it made them look more modern like the 70 series. After seeing the price of the originals, I too put back the 70 series that were already on my cruiser. Like other people that have replied to your thread, we learn more about the sickness we all share by pointing out the differences and learning from each other. Hence, IH8mud.com