Manual Transmission in 200 series

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NQCruiser said:
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Only drawback is that if you get the 5 Speed Manual option, you have to also take the cassette player!!!

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Super simple double din radio. How novel!

Never have to worry about the stupid screen glitching out on you. Never.

Oh, you want a screen and some features, no bid deal, $300 and its yours. Upgrade in a few years. Simple. No hacks/custom harnesses/fussy Chinese directions needed.

Mind blowing.
 
if you want high quality audio amplifier and speakers, its not $300 , it will go atleast $1500.
 
onemanarmy said:
Super simple double din radio. How novel!

Never have to worry about the stupid screen glitching out on you. Never.

Oh, you want a screen and some features, no bid deal, $300 and its yours. Upgrade in a few years. Simple. No hacks/custom harnesses/fussy Chinese directions needed.

Mind blowing.
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I am puzzled. Is the DIN for radios also common outside Germany ?_?
have me honestly never thought about it. One rarely buys car radios abroad...
 
pvchaitanya said:
if you want high quality audio amplifier and speakers, its not $300 , it will go atleast $1500.
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Ok. The point is, you get to decide. Cheaper than the factory can do it. And whenever it glitches and becomes obsolete, which it will, you upgrade to any level, cheap or expensive, that you want. You aren't stuck with a fully integrated tacked on screen some odd size that has to have a EE figure out a custom solution. That maybe fine for a supercar....but not a land cruiser. That goes against the very ethos.
 
TheComedian said:
I am puzzled. Is the DIN for radios also common outside Germany ?_?
have me honestly never thought about it. One rarely buys car radios abroad...
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its very common in Asian countries, the 1st thing you do after buying a new car is drive it to a audio store to get the speakers, subwoofers and radio units you want.
as @onemanarmy pointed out. You get the option to go as cheap and bare minimum you want or choose the highest quality speakers and amp you can buy in retail.
 
TonyP said:
The H152 can handle the 1VD.
I'm sure it'll more than likely handle the 3UR which has similar power numbers.
The issue comes as very few people would chose the manual 3UR over the A750F
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The manual 1VD 200 series are detuned to only 430Nm of torque instead of 650Nm in the automatic. Even the current manual transmission Hilux has a lower torque output compared to the automatic counterpart.
 
HRTROB said:
The manual 1VD 200 series are detuned to only 430Nm of torque instead of 650Nm in the automatic. Even the current manual transmission Hilux has a lower torque output compared to the automatic counterpart.
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Exactly it looks. Perfectly described. That's just the small disadvantage of the switch. Not that you'll notice much of a difference in performance on the road (you certainly won't notice it off-road) but at least it should increase the life of the engine more than a little.
 
Manual forever!

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Str8Razor said:
I searched but had no luck, has anyone done a manual transmission swap in a 200 series? Or take it a notch further and diesel swapped and manual transmission converted a US spec 200? Pic for attention…

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Hi,
I have a VDJ200 with a 5 speed manual transmission.
4.5 liter v8 twin turbo.
however, unlike the automatic version this engine is heavily detuned. 212 bhp and aroun430NM of torque.
you would need a more robust gear box as one of the reason it was detuned was to accomodate the manual transmission.
a couple of people have used an aftermarket chip or a tune and the gearbox was destroyed.
yes 5.7 lt would be a cool project but the toyota gear box wont be the answer. (we get the 4.6 V8 in this part of the world)
 
Oshan Senanayake said:
Hi,
I have a VDJ200 with a 5 speed manual transmission.
4.5 liter v8 twin turbo.
however, unlike the automatic version this engine is heavily detuned. 212 bhp and aroun430NM of torque.
you would need a more robust gear box as one of the reason it was detuned was to accomodate the manual transmission.
a couple of people have used an aftermarket chip or a tune and the gearbox was destroyed.
yes 5.7 lt would be a cool project but the toyota gear box wont be the answer. (we get the 4.6 V8 in this part of the world)
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That’s interesting as the manual gearbox in the VDJ200 is the same as that in the VDJ7x. My VDJ79 was tuned previous to my purchasing it, and it runs strong. I know that the Aussies and guys in South Africa love to tune their VDJ7x’s and some run 35’s+ on them to boot!
 
Climbingnut said:
That’s interesting as the manual gearbox in the VDJ200 is the same as that in the VDJ7x. My VDJ79 was tuned previous to my purchasing it, and it runs strong. I know that the Aussies and guys in South Africa love to tune their VDJ7x’s and some run 35’s+ on them to boot!
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Very interesting! Gives me some hope!
what's the Gearbox type?
i think min has the H150F.
i would really like to get a bit more juice out of it but without compromising the reliability.
How much BHP was gained by the tune?
 
Oshan Senanayake said:
Very interesting! Gives me some hope!
what's the Gearbox type?
i think min has the H150F.
i would really like to get a bit more juice out of it but without compromising the reliability.
How much BHP was gained by the tune?
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Both my Cruiser’s, the 200 and the 79 have the same H150F gearbox. I did the 2nd and 5th gear ratio upgrade on the 79 though. I can’t say for sure about the BHP changes as it was done pre my ownership. I need to get it checked though next time I’m in a place that has a dyno and tuning setup.

I personally would be up for tuning my 200 a little bit. Not much, but I know there’s ways to remap it for better fuel consumption and a little more power. Some gains can be done just by upgrading to a larger exhaust and a better inter cooler or intake (snorkel). The V8 likes to breathe!
 
Climbingnut said:
Both my Cruiser’s, the 200 and the 79 have the same H150F gearbox. I did the 2nd and 5th gear ratio upgrade on the 79 though. I can’t say for sure about the BHP changes as it was done pre my ownership. I need to get it checked though next time I’m in a place that has a dyno and tuning setup.

I personally would be up for tuning my 200 a little bit. Not much, but I know there’s ways to remap it for better fuel consumption and a little more power. Some gains can be done just by upgrading to a larger exhaust and a better inter cooler or intake (snorkel). The V8 likes to breathe!
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Thanks mate,I will be looking into this in more detail for sure. would be nice to get a bit more grunt out of it.
 
@Oshan Senanayake, give the Aussie forums a look as well as the ones in South Africa. I’m a member of www.landcruiserclub.co.za (LCCSA) and www.4x4community.co.za, both of which have users who have done lots of stuff to their VDJ79’s and VDJ200’s. However, I’ve seen VERY few VDJ200’s with a manual gearbox. There’s one in Namibia, mine and a few other pre-facelift ones here in Angola. Still, the remapping and tuning for the 1VD motor and its effects on the H150 gearbox should be the same in either the 70 or 200 series application.
 
Climbingnut said:
@Oshan Senanayake, give the Aussie forums a look as well as the ones in South Africa. I’m a member of www.landcruiserclub.co.za (LCCSA) and www.4x4community.co.za, both of which have users who have done lots of stuff to their VDJ79’s and VDJ200’s. However, I’ve seen VERY few VDJ200’s with a manual gearbox. There’s one in Namibia, mine and a few other pre-facelift ones here in Angola. Still, the remapping and tuning for the 1VD motor and its effects on the H150 gearbox should be the same in either the 70 or 200 series application.
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Hi,
thank you very much!
must check out that site.
Been reading up on some of the 79 forums and if they can do it I don't see why we 200's can't.
need to look for a really good tuner who can use all the parameters and not just rail pressure.
Cheers!
Oshan
 
I think the bigger problem would be the clutch. So a beefier clutch set would solve problems with higher hp. From the informations I found the clutch was the main reason for the detune since Toyota was worrying about the ppl in the target market of this combo (mostly GCC) would kill the clutch on a daily base with close to 300hp.
 
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