Thanks for the quick reply Longhorn. I had found the access panel for the drain plug, ill look again for the oil filter access, but it helps to know where to start. Thanks again! This is my first LC!
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Ok, going to change my oil probably wednesday if its not too snowy out.
Mobil M1-209 filter, thats the larger one correct? it will fit up without any clearance issues correct? How about increased oil capacity, should i buy 8 quarts instead of the usual 7 to be able to add that little bit extra?
Now for the oil, Used to run Mobil 1 7500 mile 5w-30. Last time i bought M1 5w-30 full syn, what most mobil gas stations keep on hand.
Which Mobil oil would you folks recommend for my next 4-6 thousand miles?
truck and SUV
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil1_Truck_SUV_5W30.aspx
or
extended performance?
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_Extended_Performance_5W-30.aspx
I would consider my 2UZ-FE motor one of the harder working motors here on 'mud. Im always hammer down and i want to give my motor the most protection. I need to order the oil tomorrow, so any insight by say, 3-4pm EST would be GREATLY apperciated.
Mobil M1-209 filter, thats the larger one correct? it will fit up without any clearance issues correct? How about increased oil capacity, should i buy 8 quarts instead of the usual 7 to be able to add that little bit extra?
Now for the oil, Used to run Mobil 1 7500 mile 5w-30. Last time i bought M1 5w-30 full syn, what most mobil gas stations keep on hand.
Which Mobil oil would you folks recommend for my next 4-6 thousand miles?
truck and SUV
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil1_Truck_SUV_5W30.aspx
or
extended performance?
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_Extended_Performance_5W-30.aspx
I would consider my 2UZ-FE motor one of the harder working motors here on 'mud. Im always hammer down and i want to give my motor the most protection. I need to order the oil tomorrow, so any insight by say, 3-4pm EST would be GREATLY apperciated.
The EP is probably overkill and a waste if you are doing 4-6k OCIs. So narrow down to Mobil1 or Mobil1 SUV. Near identical from what I can see . The SUV meets the ACEA A5/B5 that the Mobil1 does not so slight edge there. How much are you paying? It looks like you aren't getting the 5 quart jugs at Wal-mart so if you are in the $6/quart range I would also consider the german made Castrol Syntec 0W-30.
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M1 0w-40 would be my first choice. The truth is that the 2UZ-FE engine is very easy on oil, every used oil analysis posted on bobistheoilguy from this engine has been fabulous, regardless of the oil used. If you can't find the 0w-40, then Mobil 1 5w-30, or 0w-30 are both good choices. Use factory toyota filters and change at 10k mile intervals and don't look back.
I too suggest buying the 5qt jugs at walmart instead of buying in quarts.
ok well, i went to look for a mobil filter today, hah that was a joke. Couldnt find it at my normal spots. Went with plain, M1 5w-30 SuperSyn(the normal synthetic) and OMG LOL WHAT DID I DO!?? i bought a regular OEM Denso filter at toyota. Its the first time ive put a OEM filter in in years, i just didnt feel like messing with ordering the K&N or Mobil or what have you.
If everything isnt coated in snow/ice i should have it done by midday. Whats the recommended OCI reguarding the denso filter ending in "D3"? 3k miles? 5k miles?
If everything isnt coated in snow/ice i should have it done by midday. Whats the recommended OCI reguarding the denso filter ending in "D3"? 3k miles? 5k miles?
Jim_Chow
V8_Fan
Is it made in Thailand or Japan? Either way, it's 7.5K miles, but the latter is the factory filter that is no longer sold here but is still available in Japan (surprise! surprise!) for 2,000 yen ($16). I got the Thai filters from CDan for $3.50 each, so I don't know why you guys are trying to source M1/aftermarket filters. All the OEM ones are good. I use the Thai V8 ones (-YDZZ3) on my 4 cyl 4runner and the Japanese ones on the LX (-20004). Still got about another 90K mile supply of the -20004's.
Factory interval is 7.5k, but you can run them for 10k if you decide to go those intervals on the oil (which is no problem). New engines run very clean and rarely clog filters. Honda has gone to 10k oil change intervals with filter changes every other oil change on mineral oil.
I still have about 20 of those 20004s, I use them on both of my V8s.
damn i feel worthless using the thai filter. Oh well, ill probably just go 5-7k miles then. Thanks for the info, going to change the oil friday most likely...with all the ice today i stayed home.
Just bought a Mobil 1 filter for my 80...
K&N and Mobil 1 are both made by the same mfr (Champion, not the same one as the spark plug) Both are real similar in quality. Both have real nice valves compared to all the rest which IMO is one of the real differences. Don't want dirty oild draining back into the engine.
"Playland..." Hmmm don't suppose you can find one next to the Dragon Coaster huh?
Here's a quote from one site...
Mobil 1 oil and oil filters have long had an outstanding reputation. The filters have a synthetic element media and the strongest shell on the market. The outside shell is .0195" thick on the large ML-301 or .0170" thick on the smaller ML209. Mobil 1 is maybe the most forthcoming with information since for a long time they have been the 100-year-old scotch of quality oil filters. They are proud of their "Hydrostatic Burst" values which are three times the SAE standard. Their "Pressure Impulse Cycles to Failure" values which are the highest, and only ones I have found; which mean the guts of the filter are made like a tank. The whole filter is an engineering exercise in loving design excess. Is it the best oil filter made or has anyone come up with a better design while Mobil 1 has rested on it's reputation? Lacking extensive and expensive laboratory tests I can only say Mobil Oil filters are somewhere in the top three, in a class of outstanding over achievers. Like all top shelf oil filters the going rate seems to be about $10 off the shelf or $9 if you can cheese a jobber price
K&N and Mobil 1 are both made by the same mfr (Champion, not the same one as the spark plug) Both are real similar in quality. Both have real nice valves compared to all the rest which IMO is one of the real differences. Don't want dirty oild draining back into the engine.
"Playland..." Hmmm don't suppose you can find one next to the Dragon Coaster huh?
Here's a quote from one site...
Mobil 1 oil and oil filters have long had an outstanding reputation. The filters have a synthetic element media and the strongest shell on the market. The outside shell is .0195" thick on the large ML-301 or .0170" thick on the smaller ML209. Mobil 1 is maybe the most forthcoming with information since for a long time they have been the 100-year-old scotch of quality oil filters. They are proud of their "Hydrostatic Burst" values which are three times the SAE standard. Their "Pressure Impulse Cycles to Failure" values which are the highest, and only ones I have found; which mean the guts of the filter are made like a tank. The whole filter is an engineering exercise in loving design excess. Is it the best oil filter made or has anyone come up with a better design while Mobil 1 has rested on it's reputation? Lacking extensive and expensive laboratory tests I can only say Mobil Oil filters are somewhere in the top three, in a class of outstanding over achievers. Like all top shelf oil filters the going rate seems to be about $10 off the shelf or $9 if you can cheese a jobber price
Now, how does the Denso filter compare to the Mobil filter?
Btw, how do you know bout the dragon coaster?
Btw, how do you know bout the dragon coaster?
Jim_Chow
V8_Fan
Dunno, but the Japanese-made -20004 has a resin core and is highly recommended and used by CDan. With the -YDZZ3, one might consider doing interim changes at 4K mi.
Many times in this country, people say this or that product is the "best" and exceeds some spec by this much, but when you compare it to OEM, it's comparable. Remember that Toyota OEM parts quality also exceeds that of the vast majority of domestic parts and are tested worldwide. If we didn't believe that, we wouldn't be here on this forum! The question one should ask is, "what oil filters are they using in LC's overseas like in the Middle East and Australia?" My guess is they're using the -20004. We know the oil spec'd for the 2UZ is 10w30, not 5w30.
Siglo, would you know?
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I read on www.bobistheoilguy.com that Mobil 1 10w30 was really a "better" oil then the 5w30. But also read opinions that based on used oil analysis the Toyota 4.7 V8 was one of the best most durable engine ever made by any manufacture. Which means it will out last the truck if you do normal 7.5K mile oil/filter changes with a good dino oil and a good filter. Kind of like using the good synthetic and filter and getting 500K trouble free miles out of your engine or using the dino stuff and getting 480K trouble free miles.
Grew up in New Ro. Cousin lived across Forest Ave. from it. AActually when the County started to charge general admission we'd sneak in by the old fishing pier...
The key to the Mobil 1 is that it's a synthetic media.
There are some photo's floating around of the 20004 filter and it clearly has a superior filter medium compared to the cheap OEM filter that is now widely available. This would be my first choice in filters. My next choice would be the Mobil 1 and Napa Gold Filters (Wix), both of which are high quality. Most of the premium filters are of more than adequate quality, the only filter I would specifically advise against is a Fram.
For oil, if you are using a 30 weight oil, use the Mobil 1 5w-30. I pumps better at lower temperatures and is the same thickness at operating temps. There is no practical difference between the 10w-30 and 5w-30 in terms of durability or sludging.
Just wondering if Toyota went with this cheaper filter when they lowered the oil change interval in 2004 from 7500 miles to 5000 miles?
Jim_Chow
V8_Fan
I didn't know that! I bet that's why. It was probably about '04 when they changed to the YDZZ3 filter. Looks like I'll have to buy the -20004's overseas after I run through my last dozen.
Ok well ill shoot for only 4-5k miles then with this thai denso filter. Ill either get a good supply of the 20004s or find somewhere to get the Mobil filters.
Phxtlc, i just moved to new ro two weeks ago, grew up in rye. Lived up near the corner of oakland beach and the post road by osborn school practically my whole life. Dont know if you are familiar with the area much, but do you know the gulf station near that intersection? Thats where i get my oil changed, hah...trying to make this comment somewhat related to the topic.
