LX450 rear bumper build

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I have found that rear winch is overkill, unless maybe you do a lot of one truck solo wheeling because generally if your the lead truck and you sink the truck enough to cause you to want to turn around, there is another truck behind to winch or tug you out. I don't think we have ever really needed a rear winch on any of my runs. Plus generally if you get burried, thats part of the fun, that's why the winch is on the front, just makes you keep going!:hillbilly:
 
It would be much easier to allow for a rear winch now, just not install it, and have it ready to bolt in when the time comes. I'm kicking myself for not doing that on my rear bumper when it was being made, as I had thought about it.
There are a few options I can think of at the moment for rear winch locations;

1. Offset the winch as mentioned to one side.

2. center the winch, but have 2 receivers (one on each side, centered about the winch), then you would have to have a custom receiver bracket that slides into both with one sticking out the middle, a kind of extended Y.

3. Have the winch back far enough while still being centered and either have the hawse/fairlead below the centered receiver, or perhaps even have a fairlead on a receiver (just thinking on the fly with this 3rd option).
 
yes mine is 6 inch chanel from the scrap yard ugly as sin but so am i as is my truck,i put the hitch on top and just cut a farlead opening under it . i did have a fairlead on for a bit but that busted up pretty quick , now i just welded rollers inside the chanel .one of the better mods ive done use it and the hitch weekly seems lately. i was going to offset a hitch on each side of the fairlead then make a two to one receiver my old man had this type of settup . gets pretty back heavy though ,i believe lance is doing this style of settup.
 
Deny said:
I have found that rear winch is overkill, unless maybe you do a lot of one truck solo wheeling because generally if your the lead truck and you sink the truck enough to cause you to want to turn around, there is another truck behind to winch or tug you out. I don't think we have ever really needed a rear winch on any of my runs. Plus generally if you get burried, thats part of the fun, that's why the winch is on the front, just makes you keep going!:hillbilly:
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That's kind of what I have been thinking as well, I do not go solo wheeling to any places I would really need to worry about it. The added weight and the loss of space for a aux fuel tank (much more useful) are also issues.

Enigma said:
It would be much easier to allow for a rear winch now, just not install it, and have it ready to bolt in when the time comes. I'm kicking myself for not doing that on my rear bumper when it was being made, as I had thought about it.
There are a few options I can think of at the moment for rear winch locations;

1. Offset the winch as mentioned to one side.

2. center the winch, but have 2 receivers (one on each side, centered about the winch), then you would have to have a custom receiver bracket that slides into both with one sticking out the middle, a kind of extended Y.

3. Have the winch back far enough while still being centered and either have the hawse/fairlead below the centered receiver, or perhaps even have a fairlead on a receiver (just thinking on the fly with this 3rd option).
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I think if I was to do it I would off set it to one side. Adding it on at a later date is very easy with this bumper, everything is there it just needs the mounting plate made and bolted up.
 
Got a big roll of .035 wire and tips so tonight I can start really welding with some heat. I also picked up some more metal but got it 4" to short :o knew I should have checked my measurements. I'll see if I can make what I have work.

My hope is tonight I can get the pivots welded in and the side wings on, After looking at it a bit last night and some talk with a friend I may see if I can push the bumper in about 2" more. I had started this with out wanting to cut the frame horns but at this stage why the hell not? Its not really going to affect anything by moving it in a bit. My main concern is keeping the uprights for the tire and jerry can holder vertical. If I move the bumper in to much it will mean making the uprights move out away from the bumper thus increasing load on the spindle and latch it may also cause some issues with leverage of the weight as it goes down the trail.
 
Enigma said:
It would be much easier to allow for a rear winch now, just not install it, and have it ready to bolt in when the time comes. I'm kicking myself for not doing that on my rear bumper when it was being made, as I had thought about it.
There are a few options I can think of at the moment for rear winch locations;

1. Offset the winch as mentioned to one side.

2. center the winch, but have 2 receivers (one on each side, centered about the winch), then you would have to have a custom receiver bracket that slides into both with one sticking out the middle, a kind of extended Y.

3. Have the winch back far enough while still being centered and either have the hawse/fairlead below the centered receiver, or perhaps even have a fairlead on a receiver (just thinking on the fly with this 3rd option).
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When I bought Jason's old bumper I had him modify it and he did option 2 and 3 for me. I just need to get a winch. Seeing George get out of a s***ty situation on our last trip to Eagle and the s*** I got myself into, a rear winch would have been nice.
 
Man can anyone weld for me.....jesus!! I cant weld worth a s*** it seems!

Ah so frusterating, spend hours making everything line up well then make it look like s*** with a crappy weld lol.

ARGH!!!

Vent off.
 
Grinder is your friend dude! Just make sure you get good penetration, then keep filling till you can grind it smooth! :hillbilly:
 
LanceCruiser said:
When I bought Jason's old bumper I had him modify it and he did option 2 and 3 for me. I just need to get a winch. Seeing George get out of a s***ty situation on our last trip to Eagle and the s*** I got myself into, a rear winch would have been nice.
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Considering your driving habits, this is the most intelligent modification you have ever contemplated for your truck. Well maybe second only to the hydrogen booster!
 
Haha oh man, this brings back memories from welding at BCIT.

We were doing gas welding and had to make sure we had good penetration in the butt joint, we were all mature but that joke kept going for days.
 
So as I posted before I had issues last night with my welds as overall attitude.

Day 5 (2 hours)

Last night the goal was to get the spindles welded in and the side wings back on. I was able to get both spindles welded top and bottom with good penetration and not overheating the metal to much. I also got the recovery points welded on, its hard to get good heat penetration on the 3/4" thick stuff but they are strong and are not going anywhere. Since I was having issues making nice clean welds I only welded the back side (out of sight stuff) so I can try and improve my welding before the viable stuff. I then tacked the side wings back on to start planing out the next step with them.

Pivot welded on:
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Other one welded on:
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Recovery point boogers:
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Side wing layout and testing to see where I want to go with them.
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Better idea of the under protection on the wings.
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A few of it off the truck:
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Its better than what I can do lol

Whats the red little car on the left?
 
Just ordered 2x 90lb gas struts for the swing outs from McMastercarr. I plan to use those along with stops to hold the swing outs open when needed.

:wrench:
 
sailor said:
Considering your driving habits, this is the most intelligent modification you have ever contemplated for your truck. Well maybe second only to the hydrogen booster!
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Yeah, that reminds me I have to give those hydrogen guys another push. I swear they must smoke a ton of weed or have amnesia everyday. I was suppose to have it shipped to me by now?
 
No work done last night on the bumper but I did order this yesterday.

http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/LED-Work-Lamp

I ordered it in a flood pattern and it will be used as a rev and work light. Very low Amp draw so I can use it for long periods with out worry of drain on the battery.

Tonight I hope to get the side wings all mocked up and ready for welding, still need to sort out the top of the sides and then the rear deck to fill the gap between the bumper and the body.

When that is all done then I will start on the swing outs, I had planed on using 1/8th 2x3 tubing but have been warned that that is to thin possibly so I guess I will need to get 3/16th, this thing is going to very heavy.
 
canucksafari said:
The price of those lamps have come down since I last looked at them. Nice to see they are 9-32V.
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Yes, DDM was about $30 cheaper than anyone else I looked at.

I also ordered some 2.5" LED marker lights from Supper bright LED's two red and two Orange to maybe put in the bumper to act as secondary turn and break lights. Not sure at this point If I will or not, I also got a strobe modal for the LED lights to make it obvious when I have the 4 way flashers on.
 
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