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If I order the OME lift off of Man a Fre is there a place where I can specify to have a medium or heavy duty lift?
-Carl
-Carl
Lifts?
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This is the one that was emailed to me that I asked about.
MAF OME FJ60 4inch suspension with shackle reversal
Is that a heavy duty lift?
-Carl
MAF OME FJ60 4inch suspension with shackle reversal
Is that a heavy duty lift?
-Carl
That kit is using the CS003F front and the CS004 (a/b) rear spring. Looks to be a mix of their light and medium kits.
Their kits without the shackle reversal (not worth converting IMHO) use the CS003F with CS017R for “light/stock loads”
Medium/heavy uses the CS004F and CS004R (a/b) (this is kurts heavy/heavy option)
Heavy uses the CS005F and the CS005R (this is kurts ultra heavy kit)
Their kits without the shackle reversal (not worth converting IMHO) use the CS003F with CS017R for “light/stock loads”
Medium/heavy uses the CS004F and CS004R (a/b) (this is kurts heavy/heavy option)
Heavy uses the CS005F and the CS005R (this is kurts ultra heavy kit)
The kit your looking at has light springs in front and med in rear. It list the springs as CS003f front and CS CS004 for the rear. Compare that with whats taken off of there page on OME springs.
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So, with that lift I posted earlier, would that work fine if I were to install a bullbar and possibly a winch? I like that certain lift also because it's a higher lift than other ones I have seen.
-Carl
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IMHO(IN my humble opinion) its to light. Dont get caught up in one saying 3inch and one saying 4 inch. Its the same springs. You can change the height by shackle selection. If you are going to do the front bumper and winch I would go with med front. IF your going with a rear bumper and tire carrier w/jerrycans then I would go with heavy in rear. Check out the break downs on the cruiser outfitters page and you can mix and match. If you go with the light kit you are showing and add bumpers and winch it will sink down some on you.
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How much would it sink down? Half inch at most?
-Carl
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If you load it up, more, and it will get worse as the weight wears it out. If your asking for advice then its dont get that one. The light one is to light for what you are saying your going to do. If your stuck on the fact they advertise 4 inches then just get it and hope for the best.
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My plans for my 60 project are to run softer springs on the rear for a better ride and add air-bags for load carrying capacity. Another option for springs is Alcan Springs. You can order the length of spring you want, the lift over stock you want and the spring rate you want. It'll take a little home work and I'll order mine heavier then I think I want and remove a leaf or two 'til I get the ride I want. They also build spring for the Orbit-Eye bushing for better articulation off-road.
The length of the spring will determine the shackle angle, which will help deterine ride quality. Many "cookie-cutter" spings don't give you a good shackle angle.... but some do. I took some 2.5" OME's off the rusty 60 and didn't care for the shackle angle. While I wasn't able to drive the truck I don't know how it rode with the OME's. Alot of people like 'em and I'm sure they are a quality unit.
Now that I've muddied the waters a bit I'll go back to my corner and hide....
The length of the spring will determine the shackle angle, which will help deterine ride quality. Many "cookie-cutter" spings don't give you a good shackle angle.... but some do. I took some 2.5" OME's off the rusty 60 and didn't care for the shackle angle. While I wasn't able to drive the truck I don't know how it rode with the OME's. Alot of people like 'em and I'm sure they are a quality unit.
Now that I've muddied the waters a bit I'll go back to my corner and hide....
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Don't let the light/medium/heavy ratings scare you in terms of ride comfort. You'll be amazed at the positive difference in handling you'll achieve. Look seriously at what your future plans are and base your decision on that. If you do indeed expect to load up the front and rear with several hundred pounds of bumpers, then take Thad's advice. I wouldn't dwell on it for too long.
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Looked at the Alcon site, I couldn't even figure out what some of the things were on my 62
. If I knew what those certain fields were I would consider getting Alcon, and I dont know a price on them.....
Eventually I will put on a bullbar and possible a winch. So I will need to get medium/heavy leafs.
-Carl
. If I knew what those certain fields were I would consider getting Alcon, and I dont know a price on them..... Eventually I will put on a bullbar and possible a winch. So I will need to get medium/heavy leafs.
-Carl
Alcan Springs
I have 4" Alcan springs built for heavy bumper front and back. I also have 1.5" over stock shackles. They are pricey, ~$800 plus just for the springs. Then you will need shackles, U-bolts and shocks, I have Bilsteins (limited choices with 4" lift). Here is a pic of mine, with no front bumper, so the front will drop a little once I get a bumper. Those are 33X10.50 tires.
Ex
Looked at the Alcon site, I couldn't even figure out what some of the things were on my 62
Eventually I will put on a bullbar and possible a winch. So I will need to get medium/heavy leafs.
-Carl
I have 4" Alcan springs built for heavy bumper front and back. I also have 1.5" over stock shackles. They are pricey, ~$800 plus just for the springs. Then you will need shackles, U-bolts and shocks, I have Bilsteins (limited choices with 4" lift). Here is a pic of mine, with no front bumper, so the front will drop a little once I get a bumper. Those are 33X10.50 tires.
Ex
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Nice rig Ex, you know the fill out form for your springs? I dont know what alot of the forms are. Like the measure from the center something. What are those?
-Carl
-Carl
Alcans
Carl, I called the 800 number, a few times, and talked to the tech. I ended up getting a deal on used springs that had the same specs as the ones I was going to order.
Good luck
Ex.
Carl, I called the 800 number, a few times, and talked to the tech. I ended up getting a deal on used springs that had the same specs as the ones I was going to order.
Good luck
Ex.
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IF I got the 4 inch OME lift, would there we a way to somehow make the front spring which are light/medium be stronger and hold more weight without sagging?
-Carl
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You can order the correct springs. That is a light spring kit. GO to this spot on the same webpage and order the heavy deluxe kit. It comes with the same things except heavy spring.
MAF Old Man Emu Suspension Systems heavy deluxe kit
All the OME spring kits we have show you are the same height of springs. We are pointing you at the springs that will fit your described situation but you are focusing in on the 4 inch advertising. All these springs are the same height. The heavy ones will hold up to the load. Dont worry about the height. Once you put your tires and springs on the truck will be 6 inches taller than where you worn out sagging spring are now. Most people freak out and think its to tall right after they put them on.
MAF Old Man Emu Suspension Systems heavy deluxe kit
All the OME spring kits we have show you are the same height of springs. We are pointing you at the springs that will fit your described situation but you are focusing in on the 4 inch advertising. All these springs are the same height. The heavy ones will hold up to the load. Dont worry about the height. Once you put your tires and springs on the truck will be 6 inches taller than where you worn out sagging spring are now. Most people freak out and think its to tall right after they put them on.
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Two questions this time.
1.Whats the difference between the basic kits and the deluxe kits?
2.What would I need/how long would it take to install the kit in my driveway with 1-3 people helping? Weekend?
Thanks
-Carl
1.Whats the difference between the basic kits and the deluxe kits?
2.What would I need/how long would it take to install the kit in my driveway with 1-3 people helping? Weekend?
Thanks
-Carl
Read the link in my last post and it tell the difference. Basic kit is just springs and shocks and bushing. The deluxe kit comes with shackels, pins, and new hardware. YOu need to put on new u-bolts. The old ones are streached out. You can go with the basic kit, buy ubolts locally, and order what ever lenght of shackle you want from several different companies, ( Spector off road, Cool cruisers of texas) are two I have used. They have 1,2 , and 3 inch versions,.
Installing does not take a lot of tools but it is time consuming and can be labor intensive. I think anyone can do it but it will take time. Your first set can take half a day or more depending on what problems you run into. If you can put it on a lift and get it 5 feet off the ground like in a tire shop and have power tool then I can do one in an hour or so. On the ground with hand tools and it would take me 3 or more. First one took several evenings and several friends.
That said it is something you should try and you will appreciate your truck even more after you do this on your own.
Tools needed are socket set, wrenches, torch, soft hammer, lots of mussle. I am sure there are several local members that would be glad to stand around and offer pointers. There is also a tread describing the process in the 60 section. I will try and find it for you.
Installing does not take a lot of tools but it is time consuming and can be labor intensive. I think anyone can do it but it will take time. Your first set can take half a day or more depending on what problems you run into. If you can put it on a lift and get it 5 feet off the ground like in a tire shop and have power tool then I can do one in an hour or so. On the ground with hand tools and it would take me 3 or more. First one took several evenings and several friends.
That said it is something you should try and you will appreciate your truck even more after you do this on your own.
Tools needed are socket set, wrenches, torch, soft hammer, lots of mussle. I am sure there are several local members that would be glad to stand around and offer pointers. There is also a tread describing the process in the 60 section. I will try and find it for you.