JDM 70 Series?

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Is there a reason that the JDM 70 Series are not getting imported very often?
I'm seeing some really nice examples on BraveAuto up to model year 2000, but I don't see many on the road or hear about many people driving them?

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I know Troopys weren't sold in Jp so the don't show up very often. Is there something else I'm missing?
 
Most people who can afford them are older and have families, so the '81 is the more popular option is my guess.
 
There are quite a few running around. I'd guess there aren't many being imported anymore because we got most of the good ones 10 years ago. When I got mine from Outback in 2007 they were already having trouble sourcing good 74s.
And most of us that always wanted one already have one now.

I suspect now that they meet the 25 year US import rule we'll see a lot of the ones we have disappear, and I will likely be a guilty contributor.
 
There are a few 1995-1999 HJZ77 there at auction between 150,000-650,000jpy..
Those would be roughly under 10K CAD imported to BC.. would they not??

Are there inspection issues? non DOT parts that need replacement?
 
and the higher stop light indicator. If some of the windows or other lights don't have the proper markings you might have to replace those as well.
I'm starting to look around for another Cruiser as well, this time less of a project. Which websites are good to get an idea of what is selling at the auctions and for what prices?
 
I registered over on jdmvip, and looked around at the importing info they have. One of the highest recommended places was Brave Auto.
If you check out their site you can look at current auctions in Japan..

I've seen it recommended that you add $3K to the auction price to get it to Vancouver..
 
I add $4k to be conservative and account for the possibility of new brakes and new tires. Also, shipping is more expensive these days since pricing for shipping is in USD.

Also, where are you getting your pricing from? Even trucks that are totally beat up are going to cost you over $6k just for the vehicle cost. Most sell for over 1,000,000 JPY (about $11k CAD at the current exchange rate). See attached example of recent prices with auction grades of 3.5 or 4.

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70 Series Listed in USD - but I see you are using the end price and I'm looking at the bid start price.. oops!


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Still, that 30167 HZJ77HV is starting at $5328, so if it sold for say 7000K plus 3K to Vancouver puts it at 10K USD.. most of the classifieds I've seen for a 70 series around here are asking closer to $20K..

edit, looks like there were 11 HZJ77HV (3.5+) sold in 2015 under 10K USD, out of 30..
 
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Still, that 30167 HZJ77HV is starting at $5328, so if it sold for say 7000K plus 3K to Vancouver puts it at 10K USD.. most of the classifieds I've seen for a 70 series around here are asking closer to $20K..

edit, looks like there were 11 HZJ77HV (3.5+) sold in 2015 under 10K USD, out of 30..

Sometimes people just have to live it to believe it. That low of kms will never sell for that low, and if you buy a rig at the bottom of the price range you got really lucky or, more likely, it has problems you have to fix. So your estimate above is assuming it arrives and needs zero maintenance.

Sign up on import-era and get Derek's estimate calculator. It will give you an estimate to pick your rig up from the docks:

Canadian Importing Cost Calculator - Excel | Import Era

Beyond that you will have your inspection cost plus costs to pass inspection plus any preventative maintenance. Also remember the exchange rate you will actually pay is about 2.5% less that the spot exchange rate.

I'm not trying to discourage you, but people tend to look at importing with "rose coloured glasses." They tend to not think about (or not be aware of) all the extra expenses that may be required to get a vehicle on the road once it arrives.
 
Its a commitment, not really a rational decision.
Once here - you will have to replace the headlights (Non-DOT), tires (non-DOT) bagged out suspension, brakes - change all fluids, hoses, belts, coolant flush, brake, power steering flush, wipers, a knuckle job - don't forget the rear wheel bearings so another $4-5k. Add it all up and see what kind of Tacoma that will get you.
 
So please tell us about your Westfalia experience...
 
Apologies for the novel;

We bought our Westy in 2004, after leaving Edmonton and moving into my girlfriends parents basement in PG.. Maybe not the most responsible purchase, we had two mk2 Jettas and had been involved in vw clubs so we had been dreaming about having a Westy for a few years already..

Ours was a nice one, owned previously by a Dr. who had taken it up through Atlin and into the Yukon. To prep he had it Rhino lined, re-painted and A/T tires mounted. I met up with David at Fastforward in Quesnel and he looked over our van. Not as nice as his Syncros Tristars or Lts but it was good for us.

It always had something going on, a short list off the top of my head;
-On Our first camping trip the fuel pump started leaking.. puddles of gas under the van..
-Next trip the rear heater core popped and soaked our gear under the bench. I ended up connecting the lines and taking out the heater completely. Fixing it with a set of vice-grips on the side of the road between LaclaHache and 100mile.
-We had some idle/digifant issues; running rough and slow response in traffic made for good times. The vw dealer unplugged the o2 sensor and cranked up the idle instead of figuring out what was wrong. After I undid that and got everything plugged back in ran much better.
-Lifters would stick, van would sound like a machine gun until they loosened up- frightening children and getting dirty looks from their parents.
-Fixing the dist cap and rotor in the day use parking lot in the dark at 10:55pm so we could get out of the provincial campsite before they locked the gates..
-Replacing all the fuel lines, and carried multiple extinguishers, after seeing how many vans end up on fire.
-Replaced brakes a few times; coming down the hill into the ferry terminal with the van loaded makes you think about new brakes..
-Transmission seals always weeped atf, and eventually went in for a rebuild after a few trips to the coast.
-speedo/odo broke - sent it out to Busdepot in Pennsylvania for a rebuild.

We had it for almost ten years, I learned a ton about the 2.1 Wasserboxer, made good friends on local vw forums and theSamba, found a bunch of vw shops like Fastforward, Axels here in Kamloops, and Vallywest in Summerland, and got lots of goodies from Gowesty and the Busdepot..

Our Westy parked at Davis Creek;



It went all over BC and Alberta, from Fairview to Cranbrook to Port Alberni; We drove it to and from our wedding, spent our honeymoon in the West Kootenays with it, and went back and forth to the island and the sunshine coast as many times as we could.

One at Cathedral Grove;



Eventually we bought a house, got a dog, and started having kids. Space was an issue, also the seat belts and safety improvements since 1986 became more important than before. Breaking down and fixing it on the side of the road mid-trip lost it's charm, and the constant possibility of spending the night with a one year old on board wasn't as easy as it once was.. The call was made and the ad went up on theSamba. Three days later a nice member from Seattle flew up and drove it home with him. We sold it for the same amount we bought it for, and see people getting much more for less than our van.

Now we have a Tacoma DCLB and a 19ft Trailer, it is very nice to drive, easy to take care of, fun to mod a bit, and very family friendly.



But every time we see a Westy we smile, try to remember not to wave, and then remember how awesome our westy times were.


With the family daily sorted (Forester) and the truck/camper/4x4 sorted I'm looking again for an interesting project. Our Tacoma has to stay pretty level-headed, It tows every summer and is usually our traveling vehicle as well. We are a vw family between projects right now, and I've been watching for the right early 60s beetle to come along..

But I'm also getting more interested in something that can spend more time exploring and getting out to the bush. I'm on UO, OLC, EXPO, and a few others, Addison and some of the other regulars are great inspiration to what a cruiser can do.. I've met Andrew (asutherland) and had a tour of his LC80, plus drooled over a few of the other local rigs. Have some plans with Jason for some work for the Tacoma..

I have friends with Delicas, Subies, Evos, Aristos.. Some went through importers, and others brought them here themselves. I've been quizzing them on importing, and trying to get info on what it would take to get one here. But you are right, there is a 100 series up the street that was for sale for $10K last August, and I've seen a few 80 Series go for less than that, both without the hassle and risk of importing or living with RHD..
 
:popcorn: The hundy is a very capable land cruiser as well and holds the family in plush leather! :)
 
Thanks, sorry that was a bit full on..
Kids definitely come with, I do TSD rallies in the Forester and am trying to raise some little navi's.. :D

 
"tsd" rally?

My DD is a 2011 outback.
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Time Speed Distance.. as opposed to full out as fast as you can Stage Rally..
Check my build on sf.org; for more details..

Check out the RallyBC page to get involved.
 
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