Fj60 Diesel Engines

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GLTHFJ60 said:
I jut got a price for the 1HD-T and it was $7500 cnd. My mistake, I thought I read FT but I didn't. Guess I'll be waiting for one for a while.

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Im in regular contact with G&S. The supply of HD-T/HD-FT engines is NOT a very good one. Dont expect to just decide that you want one and call up and buy it. There is a serious wait involved with no garentees. I dont know what Spectre's supply is, but they are going to be considerably more expensive.



TB
 
My most recent idea is to steal it out of a wrecked truck that has the engine. That would be cheaper, I would think, and possibly easier to find. What trucks came stock with the 1HD-FT?

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HDJ80 series.

-never imported to north america.

-rule in US, you can't bring a car/truck into county unless 25 years or older- or using an RI make it US legal. The US would laugh at an 80 series wreck.

-the good "low miles" HDJ80's come from Japan.

-Japan does not allow wrecks to ship out to either Canada or the US.

in summary, you have two options:
buy one from G&S
buy one from Specter

(like the ole "I'll just find a H55 from a US wreck" idea)
 
Oh well. When I pool enough dough, I will do it. Would doing a diesel swap on a SOA FJ60 be any harder than on a SUA FJ60?

Also, with a diesel conversion, are stiffer springs necessary? Recommended?

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GLTHFJ60 said:
Oh well. When I pool enough dough, I will do it. Would doing a diesel swap on a SOA FJ60 be any harder than on a SUA FJ60?

Also, with a diesel conversion, are stiffer springs necessary? Recommended?

:beer:
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I have heard a (EDIT: 1HZ :rolleyes: ) is not too much different (in demension and weight) to a 2F. So theoretically the stock springs should be fine, unless they are tired and need replacing anyway. A cummins may weight a little more and the cruiser would need to be lifted anyway so heavier duty springs might be a good bet.

maybe some one else can confirm this...
 
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VTCruiser said:
I have heard a 2F is not too much different (in demension and weight) to a 2F...maybe some one else can confirm this...
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I believe that you are correct on this one.

M
 
VTCruiser said:
haha :doh:

I meant:

"I have heard a 1HZ is not too much different (in demension and weight) to a 2F."

and that probably goes for the H and HD motors as well.
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VTC

I think you are right - again. ;-)

M
 
VTCruiser said:
I have heard a 2F is not too much different (in demension and weight) to a 2F. So theoretically the stock springs should be fine, unless they are ired and need replacing anyway. A cummins may weight a little more and the cruiser would need to be lifted anyway so heavier duty springs might be a good bet.

maybe some one else can confirm this...
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Actually, you are wrong about the Cummins. The 4BT that is. It actually weighs about 100lbs less than a 2F. FWIW.
 
HZJ60 Guy said:
Im in regular contact with G&S. The supply of HD-T/HD-FT engines is NOT a very good one. Dont expect to just decide that you want one and call up and buy it. There is a serious wait involved with no garentees. I dont know what Spectre's supply is, but they are going to be considerably more expensive.



TB
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Surprisingly enough, they are sitting on two 1HD-Ts.
 
rick_d said:
first, can all of you drop the HD-T vs HD-FT and just use:

12 valve or
24 valve or
24 valve electronic (read:nightmare)
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1HD-T = 12 valve

1HD-FT = 24 Valve

1HD-FTE = 24 valve, electronic inyection system, intercooler
 
The 4BT also is short two cylinders unless I am incorrect. I'll take six over four anyday, even if it means 100 lbs. One tenth of a second will not affect my truck too much.

Now, for off-roading, are stock or heavy duty springs better? I would like the heavy duty better because I will be towing, but off roading is a necessity as well. Thoughts?

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GLTHFJ60 said:
The 4BT also is short two cylinders unless I am incorrect. I'll take six over four anyday, even if it means 100 lbs. One tenth of a second will not affect my truck too much.

Now, for off-roading, are stock or heavy duty springs better? I would like the heavy duty better because I will be towing, but off roading is a necessity as well. Thoughts?

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There is a lot more than 100lbs difference in the 4BT and the 6BT! I don't the exact figures but I know it is a lot more than 100lbs. The 100lb difference is between the 4BT and the 2F.

In my opinion the 6BT would be way too powerful for a 60 and you would have a difficult time getting it in the engine bay. I am not saying impossible but difficult. I have heard that it has been done before but you will not have much space for an intercooler. Also, you would definitely have to beef up the suspension to carry such a heavy motor.

What do you plan on towing exactly? I plan on using my 4BT 60 to pull a tandem axle trailer with a vehicle on the back. This is why I went with the 4BT instead of just swapping my 3B/H55F into it. You have to rember the 4BT did come out of a 1.5 ton van. Unless you plan on pulling REALLY BIG trailers, I think the 4BT would be plenty adequate for you. Just my thoughts.
 
The 4BT is very powerful. Dry weight is 705 lbs so I think with accessories and fluids it is actually right about the same as a 2F or maybe even a little heavier. I think the 6BT is 950 lbs dry but I need to look it up. The 6 is nice but is huge. Check out the 6BT into a FJ55 thread on pirate. Good but guys are scared that he is going to brake things, which is understandable. I am very happy with my 4BT. I can also mildly turn it up and have huge amounts of power. As is, it will fly up big grades in 5th gear. Remember more torque than a v8. Feels like a V8 on the highway I would say, powerwise except that it is a "turbo" power instead of raw displacement of a v8, if you know the feeling. I did have to beef my springs up a little. I would recommend it. Anything over 200 hp is too much unless the torque figures are under 400 ft/lbs in my opinion...
 
GLTHFJ60 said:
Oh well. When I pool enough dough, I will do it. Would doing a diesel swap on a SOA FJ60 be any harder than on a SUA FJ60?

Also, with a diesel conversion, are stiffer springs necessary? Recommended?

:beer:
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There is no difference in the springs .The 1HZ only weighs 60 lbs or 60 kg more than the F motor.

The 2H and 12HT are in the same weight range also, but are probably an inch longer.

There are light duty and heavy duty leaf packs available depending on your load requirements.

If you went with the GM V8 diesel swap I would look at heavier springs on the front.
 
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