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ShottsUZJ100 said:
But it can't get a word in edgewise with it's owner blabberin all of the time!
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FJ Cruiser suspension
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But it can't get a word in edgewise with it's owner blabberin all of the time!
:shotts:TrAiLbUs1 said:So many haters and not enough time. Patience is a virtue, with time, good things happen. The FJC is a very capable vehicle out of the toy box,IT MAY BE A TONKA TOY BOX, but with all of the modifications people are creating, we will see what it has in store. The original FJ's did not have a lift kit or anything for them-people had to create, as problems needed to be solved. People will do what suits them best, leave the IFS, or bust a SAS, leave it stock or do a tire swap. Toyota made the decision to sell it as an IFS to make money, you can't blame them-they're trying to take over the world don't chu know. If that's what appeals to the populous, and is also quite capable for the offroaders, fine. The weekend warrior will put coilover shocks and other modifications as needed, the die hard rompers will do a SAS and switch everything out, richies will leave it stock be oblivious to it capacities. To each his own, most people who need a SAS probably also can afford their hobbie of huge tires and constant mods, which they will still be able to do. Technology, where has it brought us, obviously to much more complicated lives, and that damn IFS W/ electronic wizardy. If everyone is so displeased, express your concerns w/ the MAN himself, TOYOTA, if enough of a response is given they will listen, look where it got the FJ cruiser concept----to production!!!
We all like to get out and hit the rocks(not like Rick James), some just to get away, and some to conquer mountains. So unite brothers, we have the same hobbies- and the same vehicles(Toyota), well most of us, who cares what vehicle, let's all go romping!!!!!! SEE YALL ON THE TRAIL
FJ cruise school bus yellow used and abused with smiley fellow.
RELAX....RELAX....RELAX!
This thread was started to talk about FJ mods. That's all. Don't let people get you going.
Dude....FJ drivers are LUCKY! The mods are there now thanks for the Taco and 4Runner. You've got it made.
Building one of the first off-road 100's was a pain in the azz. Building an off-road FJ is cake.
So....let's all post ideas and info on FJ mods...BUT....let's see if we can't find a few ways to "better the lift kits"?
Tools R Us said:But it can't get a word in edgewise with it's owner blabberin all of the time!
Yes....to educate newbie 100 and Toyota IFS owners.
On the trail...I need to say nothing. It speaks for itself more than ever. That's how I like it.
MaddBaggins
Remember the KnightRider!
Tools R Us said:But it can't get a word in edgewise with it's owner blabberin all of the time!
hehehe, you know your loved John.
I know doodily squat about the FJ setup, so I gots nuthin to add.
ok a couple replies,,,,
john, your rig does well, i have seen it myself and am impressed with what your wiling to do with it. however i must point out that the front end sucks ass, if it werent for lockers you'd be high and dry more often than not. no worries, i'm not knockin your rig but if were gonna discuss suspension and throw ideas out there your IFS is not the example.
trailbus, i am absolutely not a hater of FJC or any rig, but i admit i am not a fan. capable? sure, a sellout by toyota? definitely. as i mentioned to john, if it werent for lockers the FJC would be left at the dirt road.
so anyway, lets not talk about the bolt-on band aids that make a rig look cool and only wheel marginally better. lets talk about fixing it and actually making it work well. and for that to happen much of the stock equipement needs to go. we should all know that stock length arms can only move so much before everything gets out of range and self distructs, we all know stock type CV's only have so much movement period. the only way to get more movement at the wheel is to make the parts of the suspensions move less, and that my firends can only happen with longer arms. ever noticed how popular fords front ends were in the day? those long arms up front made for some great movement. unfortuntely the design was a flaw in itself with a fixed mount for the spindle which kept the tire in the line of the axle. but if you have a look at something like Walker Evans rock crawler from a few years back, you'll start to get the idea of what could be done cost effectively on a smaller scale to approach that effective IFS wheel travel area where you can actually keep the wheels on the ground. we all know that translates to more control and a safer experience.
john, your rig does well, i have seen it myself and am impressed with what your wiling to do with it. however i must point out that the front end sucks ass, if it werent for lockers you'd be high and dry more often than not. no worries, i'm not knockin your rig but if were gonna discuss suspension and throw ideas out there your IFS is not the example.
trailbus, i am absolutely not a hater of FJC or any rig, but i admit i am not a fan. capable? sure, a sellout by toyota? definitely. as i mentioned to john, if it werent for lockers the FJC would be left at the dirt road.
so anyway, lets not talk about the bolt-on band aids that make a rig look cool and only wheel marginally better. lets talk about fixing it and actually making it work well. and for that to happen much of the stock equipement needs to go. we should all know that stock length arms can only move so much before everything gets out of range and self distructs, we all know stock type CV's only have so much movement period. the only way to get more movement at the wheel is to make the parts of the suspensions move less, and that my firends can only happen with longer arms. ever noticed how popular fords front ends were in the day? those long arms up front made for some great movement. unfortuntely the design was a flaw in itself with a fixed mount for the spindle which kept the tire in the line of the axle. but if you have a look at something like Walker Evans rock crawler from a few years back, you'll start to get the idea of what could be done cost effectively on a smaller scale to approach that effective IFS wheel travel area where you can actually keep the wheels on the ground. we all know that translates to more control and a safer experience.
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Wow - look what I started!ShottsUZJ100 said:
I'll agree with educate. I'll do fine with the IFS.
RHINO said:
Rhino-buddy....please don't clog this thread with IFS terror.
You're commenting on something (in the 100's case) you have no experience driving or 4-wheeling. Seriously. 
Before I had lockers I spent 2 years wheeling the thing in the AzLCA. I completed every trail with the locked SFA 80's and 60's and 40's and without stuggling in the TRAC controlled 100. In fact, there were numerous places where we'd all later laugh where the TRAC controlled 100 walked right up while the REAR-locked, then F&R locked 80's struggled and spun and slid sideways. Dude, I have a SFA vehicle...two of them. They suck in every way except for the fact they are smaller (main thing), lighter (compared to my loaded 100), cost less (so I can trash them), and have a whopping 2-inches more front travel (the same rear travel) for some added capability.
So please stop tainting this FJ thread for these guys with your innaccurate talk (again....at least in the 100's case...I cannot speak for an FJ cuz I don't have experience in them).
Let's keep it to the FJ SUSPENSION THREAD?
MaddBaggins
Remember the KnightRider!
ShottsUZJ100 said:
How about moving this to the FJ cruiser tech forum right here on MUD then. ;p
MaddBaggins said:
There's plenty already there and the FJ guys are getting hammered by SFA and traditionalists. I think this one got started for our AZ FJ guys so things could be kept in perspective. (Though the IFS crap started here too). (If you want to play the slam IFS and 100 game do it to the members via PM)
The FJ is capable out of the box and is very capable with a mild lift and IFS. Let's help find these AZ guys a way to even better their trucks.
Cdaniel
Undocumented Mechanic-I Am Not CDAN
Me thinks thou dos't protest too much
It's only observation and suggestion. No one's coming over with sawzsalls and torches to convert your truck against your will.
No anti IFS legislation has been proposed either.
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It's only observation and suggestion. No one's coming over with sawzsalls and torches to convert your truck against your will.
No anti IFS legislation has been proposed either.
Cdaniel said:Me thinks thou dos't protest too much
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It's only observation and suggestion. No one's coming over with sawzsalls and torches to convert your truck against your will.
No anti IFS legislation has been proposed either.
I'm LMAO! That's hilarious. A keeper!
YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!That's great!!
That's great!!
hey man its cool, i thought this thread was to talk about more than bolting on some longer shocks thats all. i in no way bashed or will bash IFS, but there is a whole lot more than buying a few things over the counter to make IFS better. i will now return to my hidey hole and let shotts preach the gospel about measuring up to his rig.
p.s. i had the pleasure to play with an '89 4 runner (i know shotts not as cool as YOUR IFS) but IFS non the less, managed to massage about 19" of travel out of it. but you dont wanna hear about that.
p.s. i had the pleasure to play with an '89 4 runner (i know shotts not as cool as YOUR IFS) but IFS non the less, managed to massage about 19" of travel out of it. but you dont wanna hear about that.
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RHINO said:
It's amazing how people interpret posts on a forum. We have new folks reading this thread because they bought an FJ Cruiser. They're looking for mods in order to better their FJ.
Do you think every FJ owner on this forum knows about the benefits of long shocks and how easy it could be to add them? I don't think they all know this. They/we sure didn't on the 100 forum. So, the information about this mod is easy to get to them via a post. I could:
1. Tell them to grab a copy of the 4WD Toyota Owner Magazine where a dude added 80-shocks to his 4Runner and it helped a lot. Ordering a back issue would take time.
or,
2. Post information on how they helped my 100 (instant info for the readers) and recommend they seek the same for their FJ if interested.
The trouble with #2 is that some wack-jobs view the information as "Shotts' 100 on the forum again".
The information I gave is offered up as an example of what one could do to their FJ. That's it. To the wack jobs.....get a life!
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Rhino....the thread is OPEN....discuss mods, other than longer travel shocks. That's OK. Everyone...post up to help these FJ Cruiser drivers.
They have awesome rigs.....let's help them modify them!
They have awesome rigs.....let's help them modify them!
well then lets hit on what offroadrage said earlier. he mentioned problems with the other stock components when he installed spacers in the rear of his FJC. do we need to look at some type of lowering brackets to be made??
inkpot
SILVER Star
Howdy! Now your talking. I would imaging that as the price tag fades out on the window stickers on these 2007 FJC's, that some owners will endevor to run at least 35's. I think something underneath will have to go DOWN, so that the body height can go UP. I'm thinking something like a 2-3 inch extension that bolts/welds on like the full size domestic trucks. Then they will be looking for the TRD supercharger setup, or the Tundra V8. JohnRHINO said:
