Diesel Land Cruiser for 2010?

[Tapage]

What's the real deal with the mpg .. with the V8 engine .. I'm pretty sure that the most posible buyers of this V8 Twin Turbo Diesel are not really worried about the Diesel comsumtion. Actually my 1HD-T six in line turbo diesel could giveme 14mpg ..

 

[FirstToy]

PickupTruck.Com: Toyota President Katsuaki Watanabe Says No Hybrid Diesel Powertrain for Tundra Pickup

it sounds like the diesel Tundra/Sequoia will be very, very expensive... more than the usual difference overseas.

 

[Dougal]

PickupTruck.Com: Toyota President Katsuaki Watanabe Says No Hybrid Diesel Powertrain for Tundra Pickup

it sounds like the diesel Tundra/Sequoia will be very, very expensive... more than the usual difference overseas.

I can understand why they're not willing to combine diesel and hybrid in a pickup truck.
But for a diesel pickup they probably still don't have the engine ready. The 4.5 V8 diesel in the current landcruiser is two car engines (see toyota avensis diesel) moulded together. They'll need something more abuse resistant to go head to head with cummins and co.

 

[Tapage]

They'll need something more abuse resistant to go head to head with cummins and co.

ditto !

Something that don't need to run higly turbo streesed all the way .. some engine that can handle 1 ton pick up towing and last at lease 300k miles .. before overhaul.

 

[D.D.]

Just got mine!

Fully equipped 2008 LC200 VDJ200L. 4500 cc twin turbo V8 diesel engine rated at 300HP. This is a very quick monster. Impressive handling and very quiet.

I wonder why they don't introduce this car in the US!

 

[Tapage]

I don't think it's rated up to 300 HP .. at least not stock.

It's fast .. but not as pep as I expect ..

 

[D.D.]

I don't think it's rated up to 300 HP .. at least not stock.

You are right 235 HP @ 3600rpm is the right HP.

My Dealer in the Dominican Republic shows 300 HP on his brochure!

 

[Tapage]

congrats for yours .. it's a nice Land Cruiser .. I just drove one the last weekend here in Panamá ..

 

[boobook]

It's 281hp in the UK ( 210kw). It is different in every country based on fuel quality.

 

[LandCruisers4Life]

Why, oh why can't we have the diesels here in the USA ????

Because they are going to try to force HYBRIDS down our throat. I aint swallowin.... I don't like Hybrids for off road. Already enough to go wrong, don't need more complexity, and YEARS of bugs to work out. Leave the Hybrid crap for street cars, or better yet, force the arabs to come down on the oil prices so we can get fuel for our vehicles without putting us in the poor house. But then, that's their idea.... choke us on gasoline prices and force hybrid trash on us. Screw em! I'll march on Washington before I buy a Hybrid.

 

[FirstToy]

Because they are going to try to force HYBRIDS down our throat. I aint swallowin.... I don't like Hybrids for off road. Already enough to go wrong, don't need more complexity, and YEARS of bugs to work out. Leave the Hybrid crap for street cars, or better yet, force the arabs to come down on the oil prices so we can get fuel for our vehicles without putting us in the poor house. But then, that's their idea.... choke us on gasoline prices and force hybrid trash on us. Screw em! I'll march on Washington before I buy a Hybrid.

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Toyota is bringing diesel trucks to the US. Diesel Tundra is on deck for MY2010 I think

 

[bulldog-yota]

As soon as Toyota has vehicles that meet Tier2 Bin5 emissions they will introduce them to the US market. With the Euro emissions spec being pushed in the same direction it will open the market wide open. Manufacturers are now highly motivated to produce clean diesels, that at least will meet the minimum emissions regulations.

If fuel prices are staying on the same trend they are now there will be a lot of incentive for manufacturers to focus on economy rather than speed. Fuel efficient models weren't really in the lime light at $1/gal, but now at $4/gal more consumers are looking for MPG rather than 0-60 numbers.

I believe MY09 there are a few diesels marked to come to the US, Toyota being late as usual will probably come in MY10. So by MY11 there should be some choices of diesels, if the fuel prices continue at the current trend.

Guess time will tell if Toyota will then leverage diesels to the Land Cruiser at that time.

 

[Tapage]

How about this ..

IBJ.com Story Detail

If this it's truye .. I hope Toyota pay more atention in the Diesel section soon.

 

[twstrchasr]

Because they are going to try to force HYBRIDS down our throat. I aint swallowin.... I don't like Hybrids for off road. Already enough to go wrong, don't need more complexity, and YEARS of bugs to work out. Leave the Hybrid crap for street cars, or better yet, force the arabs to come down on the oil prices so we can get fuel for our vehicles without putting us in the poor house. But then, that's their idea.... choke us on gasoline prices and force hybrid trash on us. Screw em! I'll march on Washington before I buy a Hybrid.

 

[Atticus]

Because they are going to try to force HYBRIDS down our throat. I aint swallowin.... I don't like Hybrids for off road. Already enough to go wrong, don't need more complexity, and YEARS of bugs to work out. Leave the Hybrid crap for street cars, or better yet, force the arabs to come down on the oil prices so we can get fuel for our vehicles without putting us in the poor house. But then, that's their idea.... choke us on gasoline prices and force hybrid trash on us. Screw em! I'll march on Washington before I buy a Hybrid.

OPEC is producing oil at an all-time high. The problem is a logjam at the refining stage. "The arabs," as you so indelicately put it, are not responsible for refining. If you have a problem with gas prices, take it up with the oil companies that are experiencing record profits.

 

[Dougal]

If you have a problem with gas prices, take it up with the oil companies that are experiencing record profits.

Of course the oil companies have what incentive to lower prices?

 

[Atticus]

Of course the oil companies have what incentive to lower prices?

There is no incentive at this point. But, they are more than happy to have John Q. American point the finger at "the arabs" in the meantime.

 

[pagemaster]

OPEC is producing oil at an all-time high. The problem is a logjam at the refining stage. "The arabs," as you so indelicately put it, are not responsible for refining. If you have a problem with gas prices, take it up with the oil companies that are experiencing record profits.

Seems fishy!

 

[zmw100]

I can understand why they're not willing to combine diesel and hybrid in a pickup truck.
But for a diesel pickup they probably still don't have the engine ready. The 4.5 V8 diesel in the current landcruiser is two car engines (see toyota avensis diesel) moulded together. They'll need something more abuse resistant to go head to head with cummins and co.

lol, Toyota won't ever produce a diesel engine that can touch a cummins - no matter what we all think, the cummins is a work engine, every engine toyota produces now isn't. The cummins is the only consumer availible diesel engine that is rated "medium heavy duty" versus the powerstroke or chevy (isuzu) "Light Heavy Duty"...

They may produce an engine that can compete in power in stock form but the cummins engine excels at absurd levels of torque production. In stock form they are under rated at 650ft/lb and with very slight modification can be well over 1000 ft/lb...

Don't get me wrong, I want a diesel LC just as much as the next guy, but it won't be a replacement for my work diesel truck that I routinely tow 20K lbs with.

-Z

 

[pagemaster]

lol, Toyota won't ever produce a diesel engine that can touch a cummins - no matter what we all think, the cummins is a work engine, every engine toyota produces now isn't.
-Z

I think you are the only guy that thinks Toyota can't produce a diesel on the same levels of the Cummins. There were people who said that Toyota could not build a strong V8 gas engine and Toyota came out with one of the best large gas v8s on the truck market today.

Don't get me wrong, I want a diesel LC just as much as the next guy, but it won't be a replacement for my work diesel truck that I routinely tow 20K lbs with

I not sure why one would want to replace their diesel work truck with a diesel Land Cruiser.