Although I myself am not a stickler, I have older relatives who served and are particular about the flag. I can see how in Canada not being an issue
This is the flag code as described by law. It is obviously open to interpretation and not enforced but there are those who might take offense....
Flag Code: the flag should never be used as “wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery.” It should never touch “the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.” It should not be placed anywhere it could be “easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way,” nor should it be “used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.” No part of the flag should be used in any “costume or athletic uniform,” nor should it be “used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever” or “embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs” or “printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard.”
@lcwizard I support US made products whenever I can. I just figured since Jason is truly making an American made product it would tie in nicely.
I have no issues with him making it or not. Just simply wanted something to balance out a bottle opener that I plan on welding on. And I'm not interested in any middle fingers, Monster energy logos, skulls, mudflap chicks, or anything else on that bumper.
I don't see any provisions in the code for " laser cut flags adorning welded bumpers that will never be thrown out or easily damaged in anyway"
I think you can get the same message across with "USA" or " Made in USA". Myself , I didn't serve but I've spoken to many that served , particularly in WWII who have very different attitudes toward the flag. An attitude that isn't passed on to today's kids. It sickens them to see images on TV of
people burning, dragging, spitting on or even urinating or defecating on the flag. My uncle was a Marine at Iwo Jima. In one of the early waves
he was injured but worse, lost all his friends he'd made. He was patched up and sent out again only to be injured again, and then again. The war ended with him in hospital. He had two brothers that also served but they didn't see the type of battle he saw
He died about four years ago. Until the day he died he still woke from the dreams nearly every night. He didn't speak about it ever. I found out from his third wife.
She said he would wake screaming in sweats. One of the reasons she didn't stay.
Even when I was a Boy scout we were taught importance of the flag. I don't know if they still do it but back then if a flag so much as touched the ground we were required to retire it, which involved a ceremony .Being 56 y/o I remember way too many things forgotten
@lcwizard I'm totally with you there. My 86 year old grandfather was on the first cargo ship to be boarded from Poland after WWII. He spent two years underground in the V2 rocket plant in a concentration camp. He came here, U.S., at 16 with no family, as they were all executed, and has never left this country since then. He says all the time "Why would you ever travel anywhere else when you live in the greatest place on earth." He also proudly has the biggest flag on his block waving in front of his house.
Agreed "U.S.A." Or "Made in USA" would be more appropriate.
As an Eagle Scout we sure did have a flag ceremony if a flag was to be retired or touched the ground. Standard quick procedures without getting into detail was cut the grommets off, cut the flag in half, then cut the canton(stars) off, the three pieces, are burnt till unrecognizable, and a new flag is raised in its honor.
@lisponger Cool, at least the Scouts are keeping tradition
Long post here....
As most of you know I love my music. Every chance I get I listen to and stream videos. A recent music video I watched absolutely crushed me.
I did some further research and the numbers are quite accurate and extremely disappointing. Here is the video link. Some may have watched this before.
Now on to part 2 of this reply.
I'm a "Made in USA" kind of guy. I appreciate the service by all of our men and women past, present and future. Lots of controversy on the issues surrounding flags, service, patriotism, etc... It really troubles me.
I'm a younger old soul and was raised in an older traditional values, ethics and ways of life family. I agree/abide with/by the Flag Code and also know that the red, white and blue dye and cloth will ALWAYS symbolize freedom. Even if it is not present right in front of us, the knowledge and respect it command consumes us anytime something is not right with our current national security. I believe for some this is remembered daily and for others it is only when we are faced with adversity, which is troubling. But, it still activates our brains and hearts back where they belong.
I do everything possible to buy and sell 100% Made in USA materials, parts and support other USA companies. The whole "Assembled in the USA" kills me... I appreciate that Americans put it together, but the piece is produced overseas and is shipped in. People seem to be all about the lowest price item wins their purchase.
In my eyes by the time a product is shipped (fuel, wear and tear, environmental impacts from the shipping source, cost of shipping personnel, etc..) then customs/receiving personnel labor rates, taxes, inspections, etc... then more shipping costs, environmental impacts, personnel costs etc...Hell... it goes on and on... until it arrives at your door. Just buy as local to you as you can. Yes, costs may be more, but at least it is supporting a 100% USA workforce family.
OK OFF THE BOX FOR NOW.....
At the end of the day it is what we teach each other and our children that will keep this nation and our families strong. Once that falls by the wayside, things start to deteriorate quickly. Just take a moment and stop to think before acting. It only takes seconds out of our daily lives. Also, take time, stop and thank our military service people. It does make a difference.
J
