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Place holder until I can write a proper write up for this all important thread.
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I said I would start this thread when I had some time....... well, I don't really have the time right now to do a thruogh write-up, but got this from Bill the other day and thought I aught to get the info out ASAP.


"Gents:
Here is the link to grant program that your 4WD clubs may be interested in and a way for your respective clubs to help put some $$ back into the trails and access to trails. It is called the Rugged Ridge Trail Access Grant program. Others have done it and said it is a pretty painless process if your project has merit:

http://www.ruggedridge.com/index.php/webforms/index/index/id/3/

Bill Alspach
PS - Through combined efforts we have gotten the USFS to seasonally reopen Rampart Range Road!!"

I'll bring it up as a point of discussion at tomorrow night's meeting as well.

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Received this from COHVCO this week:

MEETING REGARDING OHV USE ON HONOR FARM PROPERTY NEAR PUEBLO

The City of Pueblo will host a meeting with the Honor Farm Property stakeholders regarding the future of Off-Highway Vehicle (OHV) use at 5:00 p.m., Wednesday, November 19, 2014 at the George L. Williams Pavilion, 800 Goodnight Avenue in City Park. Please feel free to share with others that may be interested in attending the meeting.


Mary Beth Roth

Marketing Program Coordinator

Parks and Recreation Department

City of Pueblo


November 6, 2014

TO:
News Editor


FROM:

City of Pueblo
Pueblo Parks and Recreation
www.puebloparks.us

CONTACT:
Steven Meier
Director of Parks and Recreation
719-553-2790
parks@pueblo.us

Honor Farm Park and Open Space Public Stakeholders Meeting
November 19, 2014 at 5:00 p.m.
George L. Williams (City Park) Pavilion, 800 Goodnight Avenue

The City of Pueblo and the Honor Farm Advisory Committee will be hosting a public stakeholders meeting on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 at 5:00 p.m. in Pueblo City Park at the George L. Williams Pavilion. The discussion will be on the future of off-highway vehicle (OHV) riding at the Honor Farm Park and Open Space Property.

For more information, please contact the Pueblo Parks and Recreation Department at 719-5532790 or parks@pueblo.us.
 

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Another opportunity from COVCHO:

Hi fellow recreationists,

Here is another opportunity to make your voices heard regarding recreation on public lands. This alert comes to us from the one of our partners.
Please try to attend this session. The more we are out there - the more they have to listen.

AHRA CITIZEN TASK FORCE TO MEET

SALIDA, Colo. - The Citizens Task Force (CTF) for the Arkansas Headwaters Recreation Area (AHRA) is inviting the public and encouraging planning firms to join them for their regular meeting at 9:30 a.m. on Wednesday, Nov. 12 at the Chaffee County Fairgrounds in Poncha Springs, CO.

Representatives from the US Forest Service, the Bureau of Land Management and the National Park Service will give presentations that will explore the various elements of recreation that matter most to the public, demonstrate how to create sustainable ways to deliver those desires, and discuss lessons learned regarding visitor use and visitor capacity. More detailed descriptions of the presentations can be found below. Learn from agency experts first hand.

A brief public comment session will begin at 9:40 a.m. For more information, contact the AHRA visitor center at 719-539-7289.

National Parks Service: “A Framework for Visitor Use Management and Visitor Capacity”
  • This presentation will cover lessons learned while addressing visitor use management and visitor capacity during the development of the Comprehensive River Management Plan for the Virgin River at Zion National Park and adjacent BLM Wilderness. A variety of strategies and tools will be discussed for use in sustaining desired conditions for river values while providing the framework for addressing visitor capacity when necessary. Updates will also be provided from the Interagency Visitor Use Management Council (IVUMC).
US Forest Service: "Sustainable Recreation and River Planning"
  • This presentation revisits the powerful and vital purpose of public river management. The Forest Service is on a journey to transition the agency's Recreation program toward sustainability with the goal of creating lasting public benefits and facilitating the emergence of more self-organizing and resilient social-ecological systems. New techniques that quickly help develop alternatives, address outstanding resource values and identify potential conflicting uses will be demonstrated using state of the art sustainability science.
  • "Eco-Cycle Planning Program Review" The US Forest Service will also facilitate a process to analyze the full portfolio of activities and relationships to identify obstacles and opportunities for progress. Learn how to eliminate or mitigate common bottlenecks that stifle performance by using the Eco-cycle process. Eco-cycle makes it possible to sift, prioritize and plan actions with everyone involved in the activities at the same time, as opposed to the conventional way of doing it behind closed doors with a small group of people.
Bureau of Land Management: "Outcome-Focused Management of Recreation Visitor Services"
  • Aldo Leopold famously said that "To keep every cog and wheel is the first precaution of intelligent tinkering." This presentation involves a role-playing exercise designed to engage participants in identifying the various elements of recreation production that matter most to the public. The exercise will be followed by a presentation of basic concepts and exploratory dialogue.
The AHRA is managed through a cooperative effort between the Bureau of Land Management and Colorado Parks and Wildlife. Colorado Parks and Wildlife manages 42 state parks, more than 300 state wildlife areas, all of Colorado's wildlife, and a variety of outdoor recreation. For more information go to http://cpw.state.co.us

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Received this Email from Jerry at predator 4x4 tonight. Good idea to send in a letter if you've got time. I'm going to force myself to sit down and write something up:

This is an urgent request to get letters of support to open the gulches sent to the Park County Commissioners. Business, Organizations and individuals need to send letters in favor of Park County adopting the trails in Wildcat Canyon. Its very short notice but the letters need to be to Park County by Dec 5th.
The address is: Park County Commissioners
PO Box 1373
Fairplay, CO 80440
You can also go to there website and send an e-mail co-parkcounty.civilplus.com

The commissioners need to know there is public support for these trails.
Jerry Panek
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Received this Email from Jerry at predator 4x4 tonight. Good idea to send in a letter if you've got time. I'm going to force myself to sit down and write something up:

This is an urgent request to get letters of support to open the gulches sent to the Park County Commissioners. Business, Organizations and individuals need to send letters in favor of Park County adopting the trails in Wildcat Canyon. Its very short notice but the letters need to be to Park County by Dec 5th.
The address is: Park County Commissioners
PO Box 1373
Fairplay, CO 80440
You can also go to there website and send an e-mail co-parkcounty.civilplus.com

The commissioners need to know there is public support for these trails.
Jerry Panek
Predator 4WD,llc

Forgot to write a letter this weekend. Doing it now. I encourage all CLCers to do the same!
 

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Received today from COHVCO:



BLM to host public scoping meeting in Colorado Springs for Eastern Colorado plan

Contact: Kyle Sullivan, Public Affairs Specialist, 719-269-8553

CANON CITY, Colo. – In response to public feedback, the Bureau of Land Management Royal Gorge Field Office is hosting an additional public scoping meeting in Colorado Springs to solicit comments on the Eastern Colorado Resource Management Plan. The open-house style meeting will be held on July 14 from 4:30-7:30 p.m. at the Westside Community Center, 1628 West Bijou St., Co Springs 80904.


“It’s very important to hear from the public before we begin drafting the plan revision,” said BLM Royal Gorge Field Manager Keith Berger. “This scoping period gives the public a great opportunity to become involved early in the process and talk with BLM specialists to ask questions about different resources we manage.”


The BLM will accept comments through July 31, 2015. The scoping period gives the public the opportunity to identify issues to be addressed in the plan revision. The BLM will closely consider public comments in drafting a range of management alternatives for the planning area.


The public is encouraged to stop by the open house meeting anytime between 4:30 and 7:30 p.m. to talk to BLM specialists, learn more about the revision and provide comments. An informal presentation will be given at 6:15 p.m.
Attendance at these open houses is not required to submit comments to the BLM. For further information about this plan revision and how to provide scoping comments, visit http://on.doi.gov/1HVULcA, or contact John Smeins, RMP Project Manager, at (719) 269-8581.


Comments may be mailed to BLM ECRMP, 3028 E. Main Street, Cañon City, CO 81212; faxed to 719-269-8599; or e-mailed to ECRMP.Comments@blm.gov. Scoping comments will be most helpful if they are specific and received by BLM before July 31, 2015.
 
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Might be a good idea to have some folks show up for this.

This document (Analysis of the Management Situation for the Eastern Colorado Resource Management Plan) might help give you some idea of the scope of a "resource management plan", but at 452 pages it might take some effort to digest.
https://eplanning.blm.gov/epl-front...9877/59426/64617/AMS_for_Eastern_CO_RMP.4.pdf

Anybody have a reference to a completed resource management plan to see what they do?
 

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My take: it seems positive upon initial scan.

From page 1, paragraph 1.1, Overview, it says the intent is to merge two existing RMPs (Royal Gorge and Northeast) into one new RMP, called the Eastern Colorado RMP.

From the "Introduction", paragraph 1.6, it says that "Chapter 3 describes the management direction (including objectives and decisions) prescribed by existing RMPs and RMP amendments". The glossary doesn't define "direction", "objectives", and "decisions", but I read them as "vision", "near-term goals", and "methods".

See pages 244-245:

Paragraph 3.3 "Resource Uses"

Subparagraph 3.3.1 "Recreation"

It first describes the Royal Gorge Resource Area RMP; then it describes the Northeast Resource Area RMP.

Particular to the Royal Gorge RMP, it includes phrases like "continue a proactive approach to use volunteers...", "pursue development of partnerships in support of recreational opportunities..."; "provide additional opportunities for ...OHV use..."; "Partnerships will be developed with local/regional OHV clubs...".
 
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Here is yet another lawsuit to close roads in our backyard. We really need to get more involved, maybe someone can reach out to Colorado Association of 4 Wheel Drive Clubs to help coordinate all of us? Bill with the moto club as well. Isn't the Colorado Association of 4 Wheel Drive Clubs coordinator in WP? Wish we had a club member up there that could help with that :hmm:.

Also heard that F/S will begin taking comments on off road use map for Badger Flats area, believe it is the South Park district. Same District that has arbitrarily made it illegal to park on the side of the road along FSR 211, designated parking areas only

Pact blocks off-road expansion
 
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I'm not the guy anyone wants to get involved with this. I'm not anywhere near diplomatic enough. I promise you that Tom Sobal does not ever want to meet up with me face to face:

“The forest opened certain trails and areas that I knew from experience had been previously closed to motor vehicles. Single track and game trails were improperly opened to ATVs or somehow became designated roads. These are places where I go to get away from the noise of and chaos of modern society and where wildlife thrive,” said Tom Sobal, of the Quiet Use Coalition, based in Salida, Colo.

“We’re glad this settlement will result in the Forest Service taking a look at its roads and trails and the desires of a broad spectrum of forest users. We need to safeguard the rare quiet wild places that remain"

broad spectrum? Who??? In my experience, radical single minded activists like Tom Sobal are very much in the minority.

He's whining about 2200 miles of ohv use trails??? Really??? THERE ARE OVER 13 MILLION ACRES OF NATIONAL FOREST LAND IN COLORADO. This man is a lazy fraud. If he was really an activist, he would be willing to walk further to get away from ohv trails. I hope the court burns his ass for being an idiot.
 
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Stay the trail posted this:

Possible Trail Closures

Reynold's Wrap (Saran Wrap), our club's adopted trail, is on the list of trails that may be closed. There is a huge number of area trails identified in this lawsuit that are at risk for closure. I think that the article above is a bit misleading, because the way I read the settlement, The forest service will have to perform formal studies to show that existing trails meet requirements.
 

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